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For the referees out there: what do the laws of the game actually say about one player knocking the ball out of the hands of another player when both players are contesting the ball in the air? I'm curious about the factual accuracy of comments just made by a video referee. Note this is definitively not a tackle in the air, it is a contest for the ball in the air, when both players are in the air. Is there a law that prevents a player from knocking the ball out one on one, or has the video referee just made that up?

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Quote: SaleSlim "I didn't see the challenge yesterday as was flicking between channels but just watched the highlights on the Beeb website and can't see that Thaler had any other option TBH. Watch it again.... no.contact with the back.... his right shoulder makes direct contact with the head. And TBF to Fages he didn't make a meal out of it at all. He got treated on the pitch and wasn't knocked.out so no need to leave the field for a HIA (unless someone can tell me the rule is different?).

Not seen the Wakey one so can't comment on that.'"

Sorry just cannot see contact with the head, back of shoulder and a whiplash affect but initial contact was not with the head, if this is the way its going to be from now on then fine, but I expect this to be a red every single week from now on, not let go next week when it happens again, but we all know, this will happen multiple times and the ref will not show a red.

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Quote: rollin thunder "Sorry just cannot see contact with the head, back of shoulder and a whiplash affect but initial contact was not with the head, if this is the way its going to be from now on then fine, but I expect this to be a red every single week from now on, not let go next week when it happens again, but we all know, this will happen multiple times and the ref will not show a red.'"


Red card without question. Do what Fages did, and take it on the chin.

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Quote: rollin thunder "Sorry just cannot see contact with the head, back of shoulder and a whiplash affect but initial contact was not with the head, if this is the way its going to be from now on then fine, but I expect this to be a red every single week from now on, not let go next week when it happens again, but we all know, this will happen multiple times and the ref will not show a red.'"


It was when the arm came round from the back of the shoulder it rode up into the head. So, yes, the initial contact appeared to be high on the shoulder, but ended up making contact with the head. The fact that most of the impact dissipated before the head, doesn't change that contact was late and ended up high. Had Fages being falling into the tackle that may have mitigated it, but he wasn't. Once upon a time it would have been a penalty or maybe a yellow, but sports simply cannot tolerate attacks on the head anymore.

At my son's RU training this morning I heard some coaches reminiscing with the older boys about what you could do in the old days, but would be an immediate red now, anywhere near the head and you're off!

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Swinton doing great v Warrington, but a late 6 pointer from Wire, means the 20-8 HT score is rather flattering for them.

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Quote: rollin thunder "Sorry just cannot see contact with the head, back of shoulder and a whiplash affect but initial contact was not with the head, if this is the way its going to be from now on then fine, but I expect this to be a red every single week from now on, not let go next week when it happens again, but we all know, this will happen multiple times and the ref will not show a red.'"


why would the panel think otherwise

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