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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"I'm pleased that you're happy with the alleged deal ?
You say that Elstone cant be judged on the headline value of the deal but, I would argue that this is exactly where he can be judged.
In fact, it's the only measure that we have.
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Of course I am not happy with the deal, but I won't shoot the messenger.
Can you not look at it from the possibility we may have got no deal at all this time, rather than taking a view every deal will just go up and up?
You only work on the simplified position that we got X last time and we got less that that this time. I have explained what we got last time had certain drivers Elstone did not have. If that is Elstone's fault YOU tell us where he failed? What cards do YOU think he failed to play??
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| Quote WelshRL&RUwatcher="WelshRL&RUwatcher" got o 11 a side, '"
I remember Leeds Sunday league struggling for players (years ago) and they went to 11 a side.
I made the journey to watch one of these games and it wasn't bad. more running and less collisions and wrestling.....
However I'd fear that professionals going to 11 would be all about releasing the speedsters.
Reagan Grace would get 100 tries a season 
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| Quote Donnyman="Donnyman"Just about every SL club chairman and every RL official and SL official has been slagged off rotten at some time for not building some sort of utopia.
Why hasn't the TV deal gone up? Why don't we have more quality players coming through? why have crowds dropped?
Why is everything not building and building and building and building (and building)????
It's probably because the Rugby League and the Superleague have not got together and interviewed the obvious candidates just waiting to be picked up from these message boards. There's one on the "other side" who says the problem is that the failed M62 clubs simply hold back any modern day attempt for glamorous international clubs across the world to set up and show us how it is all done.
He says time to pull the plug on the M62 clubs except Wigan and Leeds and put out 10 invites across the globe...................
Like it?'"
On another thread - Loop fixtures - you state the players are more professional and the crowds are UP.
Anyway,you ain't been listening to the podcasts and reading the writing of the journalist you were happy with when he told of the financial failings of an overseas club.
Seems Elstone isn't a favourite with some of the press people.
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| Quote Donnyman="Donnyman"I remember Leeds Sunday league struggling for players (years ago) and they went to 11 a side.
I made the journey to watch one of these games and it wasn't bad. more running and less collisions and wrestling.....
However I'd fear that professionals going to 11 would be all about releasing the speedsters.
Reagan Grace would get 100 tries a season
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There would be no kicking in a forwards direction, so the full-back would be able to be in the defensive line at times, so I don't think there would as many tries as you think, especially as there would be no tries from kicks, which I detest.
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| Quote Donnyman="Donnyman"And he secured it......
What did you want?
The last deal was levered up on a combination of BT sports possibly bidding....
And it was levered up on more clubs competing with the top Championship clubs coming in on the middle eights.
Both those cards tuened out to be deuces not Ace's
You can't judge Elstone on the headline value of the deal, for all you know SKY were ready to pull the plug.'"
The facts are he has contributed nothing worthwhile that i know about and has recieved a substantial wage , no wonder the Everton supporting fan that i converse with and his mates say that he talks a good game but produces very little .
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| Quote Donnyman="Donnyman"
You can't judge Elstone on the headline value of the deal, for all you know SKY were ready to pull the plug.'"
Not just that though, is it? Hetherington and McManus are desperate to be rid. He can't carry the game in any direction without them. Which begs the question of the point in paying him.
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| But it's ok to spread false news and narratives whilst antaganising other posters.
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| Quote Clearwing="Clearwing"Not just that though, is it? Hetherington and McManus are desperate to be rid. He can't carry the game in any direction without them. Which begs the question of the point in paying him.'"
Well, Hetherington has no real say, he doesn't't own Leeds (although he likes to pretend he does). Elstome is employed, unless he severely fails or some misconduct occurs he will keep his job. The same people saying he should just get sacked are the same people that moan about the yawnions losing their powers to hold employers to ransom.
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| Quote WestEndThinker="WestEndThinker"Well, Hetherington has no real say, he doesn't't own Leeds (although he likes to pretend he does). .'"
You think someone else at Leeds makes that sort of decision? 
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