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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"Toronto saying that they wouldn't take any TV monies as they wanted their own deal in N. America was a definite mistake on their part.
I dont think they were precluded from a share of the Sky monies, it was more a case of them opting out, which no doubt helped their smooth passage into "our" comp.
Mind you, those were the days when they were "awash" with money.
As for the players union stepping in to look after their members interests - what took them so long ??'"
Players Union should be worried about players as a whole. Sure push for the RFL to pay their wages it’s only right but the Pack doesn’t deserve to survive. PSG/Crusaders went down without help from the RFL.
TW turned the central funding down thinking a NATV deal would be more lucrative and all theirs no ones fault but their own.
My point is now after pulling out the deserve nowt...
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| Quote fartown since 1961="fartown since 1961"Players Union should be worried about players as a whole. Sure push for the RFL to pay their wages it’s only right but the Pack doesn’t deserve to survive. PSG/Crusaders went down without help from the RFL.
TW turned the central funding down thinking a NATV deal would be more lucrative and all theirs no ones fault but their own.
My point is now after pulling out the deserve nowt...'"
If they come back into super league we will be a bigger joke then what we allredey are if and it’s a big if they are allowed back only in the bottom league not any other 
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| Somehow the players union is trying to make me feel sorry for the mercenaries that went over for the big bucks, after reading McDermott's cringe worthy statement burnt bridges indeed
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| Quote snowie="snowie"Somehow the players union is trying to make me feel sorry for the mercenaries that went over for the big bucks, after reading McDermott's cringe worthy statement burnt bridges indeed'"
"Mercenaries"? Give it a rest they are players who have a short career.
The players that can't get other clubs should be helped out to keep them in the game and because its the right thing to do. In the past they've been able to pay players by advancing sky money when clubs have got into bother but obviously that's not possible with the Wolfpack.
That should be the end of them competing in England.
Does anyone know how the Aussie players stuck over here are getting on? Have they been able to get back or have they been able to avoid eviction?
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Quote Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza""Mercenaries"? Give it a rest they are players who have a short career.
The players that can't get other clubs should be helped out to keep them in the game and because its the right thing to do. In the past they've been able to pay players by advancing sky money when clubs have got into bother but obviously that's not possible with the Wolfpack.
That should be the end of them competing in England.
Does anyone know how the Aussie players stuck over here are getting on? Have they been able to get back or have they been able to avoid eviction?'"
These two didn't wait long to jump ship did they
https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/toronto- ... tre-22625/
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... all-blacks
And you wonder why it didn't work
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Quote Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza""Mercenaries"? Give it a rest they are players who have a short career.
The players that can't get other clubs should be helped out to keep them in the game and because its the right thing to do. In the past they've been able to pay players by advancing sky money when clubs have got into bother but obviously that's not possible with the Wolfpack.
That should be the end of them competing in England.
Does anyone know how the Aussie players stuck over here are getting on? Have they been able to get back or have they been able to avoid eviction?'"
These two didn't wait long to jump ship did they
https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/toronto- ... tre-22625/
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... all-blacks
And you wonder why it didn't work
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What point are you trying to make?
Are you blaming the players for wanting to earn a living for Toronto going under?
I think it's more likely to be mismanagement I've seen it before.
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What point are you trying to make?
Are you blaming the players for wanting to earn a living for Toronto going under?
I think it's more likely to be mismanagement I've seen it before.
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| Quote Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza""Mercenaries"? Give it a rest they are players who have a short career.
The players that can't get other clubs should be helped out to keep them in the game and because its the right thing to do. In the past they've been able to pay players by advancing sky money when clubs have got into bother but obviously that's not possible with the Wolfpack.
That should be the end of them competing in England.
Does anyone know how the Aussie players stuck over here are getting on? Have they been able to get back or have they been able to avoid eviction?'"
Being overpaid to play in new territory seems to be the epitome of being a "mercenary".(not that it has worked out that way) and yes SL or The RFL should certainly help out those players.
Surely, we would expect this to happen if any other club. Allowing the players to become free agents and sign for other clubs should be the minimum.
Mind you, how many players do they now have left on their books, it cant be many ?
It seems pretty poor form on the part of their very wealthy former owner. Although it may not be his legal responsibility, its not great and just seems another extremely valid reason to preclude them from competing in SL next season - even though all of the noises seem to be that they will be back in 
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| i'm also getting fed up of seeing McDermot's open begging letters basically saying that they're really, really sorry for all the brown stuff we (he) were shovelling and for the good of the game Toronto should be allowed back in.
They knew the situation before they joined and yes, covid has caused this. But equally, covid has shown the fragility and stupidy of it.
Regardless, I'm sure they'll be let back in with 'as long as you promise never to do it again'. If they are let in, they should be given a points reduction next season. If they want to play in the league, they need to abide by the previously set rules of the league regardless of location. Giving them assistance was OK, but after this, it can only go so far.
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| Quote Someday="Someday"If they come back into super league we will be a bigger joke then what we allredey are if and it’s a big if they are allowed back only in the bottom league not any other
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The whole thing is a joke.
As it stands, the $Billionaire owner decides to walk as he has the opportunity to realise his dream and move to Melbourne Storm.....
Then several real English Championship clubs start putting up their hands to make the effort and investment to fill in for the phoney club......
So Superleague decide instead to start crawling to Hunter to see if they can carry on on an idea that NARL is somehow doing better than MLR Union
So the potential new owner starts dictating terms demanding SKY money, in a no strings return to Superleague.
Then despite the need to sort something out soon it all goes dead as we go into what is seemingly a second week of talks
Can't work it out unless it's something about saving face in the sporting world? After all this was the big expansion that was to take the game out of the North and across the world.
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| The majority of the comments on this thread are laughable. ''Kick Toronto out'' etc etc, no opinions of any substance and stereotypical.
If this was a Uk club, this thread would sound very different.
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| Quote The Silent H="The Silent H"The majority of the comments on this thread are laughable. ''Kick Toronto out'' etc etc, no opinions of any substance and stereotypical.
If this was a Uk club, this thread would sound very different.'"
But it’s not a UK club. Every club has difficulties but none of the other 11 SL teams have pulled out.
If Hudds, Wakey, Cas or other SL team pulled out there would not be this post because they would be summarily kicked out and if allowed to compete in the Championship be starting with a 12pt deduction.
It’s your post that illicit’s laughter and amazement...
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