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According to Tony Smith, Toronto are on the verge if being readmitted in 2021 and is one if the reasons Neil Hudgell is finally stepping down as he is disillusioned by the governing body and the decision making.
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| Quote Gallanteer="Gallanteer"According to Tony Smith, Toronto are on the verge if being readmitted in 2021 and is one if the reasons Neil Hudgell is finally stepping down as he is disillusioned by the governing body and the decision making.'" it wouldn't surprise me and there's some blaming covid 19 |
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| Quote Gallanteer="Gallanteer"According to Tony Smith, Toronto are on the verge of being readmitted in 2021 and is one if the reasons Neil Hudgell is finally stepping down as he is disillusioned by the governing body and the decision making.'"
Re-admitted to which league? SL, Championship or Championship One? Which governing body? The RFL or Superleague? They have no participation agreement for SL. They appear to be down to 13 players now? Which Tony Smith?? |
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"I know that some like to see shiny plastic seats but, we should be selling the product and not the "wrapper".
For example, the Cas v Saints play off game a few years ago was one of the most dramatic and compelling games of recent years.
NOBODY was looking at the lack of seating or the quality of the facilities.
RL scored a HUGE own goal by setting it's mythical 10,000 attendance figure, something which only 4/5 clubs can achieve.
It's absolutely right to try and push up standards on/off the field but, watching a decent game in a poor ground, beats watching a poor game in a half (or worse) empty ground all day long.
Strangely, Toronto's ground with it's psychedelic multisport pitch markings, was as bad as it gets but, "we" were pretty keen to get them into the comp.
It's utter nonsense to suggest that clubs like Trinity hold back the TV deal.
Do you really think that if they were playing out of a brand new 12,000 seater stadium, there would be, even one more penny on the TV deal
Of course everything looks better when the games are played to "sell out" crowds, although this seems very unlikely in the foreseeable future, for any club and there is no doubt that Trinity and others, need to make progress with their ground, least of all to open up additional revenue streams for themselves but, we still get back to the game of RL and using the Cas / Huddersfield analogy again, the game looks and sounds better from The Jungle than it ever has at Huddersfield but, you surely know this but, couldn't help having a pop at Trinity , again. It's like you think that they stole something which was yours ??'"
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| Quote Gallanteer="Gallanteer"According to Tony Smith, Toronto are on the verge if being readmitted in 2021 and is one if the reasons Neil Hudgell is finally stepping down as he is disillusioned by the governing body and the decision making.'"
He's been against Toronto the whole way.
Sounds like he is throwing his toys out of his pram temper tantrum style cause he's not getting what he wants. |
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"Possibly. But if clubs like those you name bring little to the game, then it's surely upto them to up their game or move aside and allow others to get a shot?
Personally, as a child growing up in the 70's and 80's, I was always more attracted to games involving the big 'star' names, such as Hull's kiwi contingent or when Brett Kenny or Mal Meninga came to town - I certainly remember when Wire signed Boyd/Tamati/Blake in the mid 80's, there was a huge buzz within the kids at school and can recall plenty of kids making their first visit to watch Wire at that time... Surely, the same scenario fits now, and in any era?'"
Well I would be for any real club getting a shot at bringing in big stars. I'd like to see Newcastle in and Mr. Kurdii signing some marquee players. I'd like to see a Hull merger and a return to the days such as Peter Sterling graced the town. I don't disagree with the principle of what you say at all. I just see some problems due to the way SL is structured with clubs requiring rich owners to succeed. If every club had a properly rich owner bring it on......
But my fear remains semi rich owners walking away if they have to fund Cannon fodder clubs - like Neil Hudgell..... |
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16 years is a pretty slow walk. But ultimately it was a loss making enterprise which hed invested in like majority of RL club. I do agree with some of your points but never the merger and Newacastle area did have a high spending franchise till plundered by the Pogs.Seems we will be welcoming backn Toronto shortly so there you go. The future is Transatlantic once more. If we do slip back out of SL it may be no bad thing.
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| Quote craig hkr="craig hkr"16 years is a pretty slow walk. But ultimately it was a loss making enterprise which hed invested in like majority of RL club. I do agree with some of your points but never the merger and Newacastle area did have a high spending franchise till plundered by the Pogs.Seems we will be welcoming backn Toronto shortly so there you go. The future is Transatlantic once more. If we do slip back out of SL it may be no bad thing.'"
Yeah with an investor but only if they get their ‘fair share’ of the TV money..
So TV money = Toronto No TV money = No Toronto
They need the TV money just to pay Sonny Bill what a sad set of affairs the RFL have created.. |
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| Quote fartown since 1961="fartown since 1961"Yeah with an investor but only if they get their ‘fair share’ of the TV money..
So TV money = Toronto No TV money = No Toronto
They need the TV money just to pay Sonny Bill what a sad set of affairs the RFL have created..'"
what if sky insist they get a cut in the next deal? it does sound to me that sky want Toronto in SL more than the SL clubs itself.....wont hold my breath waiting for bt sport or amazon to come knocking either too! |
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| Quote number 6="number 6"what if sky insist they get a cut in the next deal? it does sound to me that sky want Toronto in SL more than the SL clubs itself.'"
SKY want subscriptions for the Superleague games they show. They get these subs from English fans not from Canadians. SKY won't hold Superleague back if they want to develop and expand the sport. but they put a minimum nine English club requirement on this as Adam Pearson said......
Catalans have one of the three possible overseas spots. That means there is no room for any more than two North American clubs in SL. Perez stated North American TV companies would only back a Superleague if there were at least five North American clubs in it.
So the bottom line is TWP, Ottawa and New York create zero value to the SKY TV deal. That they may demand a cut of said deal is ridiculous, that SKY may give them that is equally ridiculous. |
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