Quote: christopher "Not sure what you mean ‘tricky ground’ or getting carried away?
Fwiw I own a Creative Design & Branding Agency. I have worked in the industry for 25 years and won industry awards for Branding.
So yes it may be my personal opinion (design is subjective) but it’s also my professional opinion.
I have not criticised or questioned the use of a Fleur De Lis, I am well aware of the connection, I have questioned the implementation.
Glad you like Wakefields logo, and you’re perfectly entitled to. I think it’s a good idea badly implemented.'"
That's the point I'm making and that's where I think you're wrong.
Before I start well done for arguing your point sensibly unlike the pathetic so-called moderator.
I'm not directly involved in branding but do have a lot of interaction with it. The reason I mentioned WPP was that I once went to a seminar hosted by them. In a Q&A someone made a point like yours and the top man shot him to pieces. He said 'Design is subjective and no one is right except the end-user (customer). You can throw every so-called rule of design out of the widow because if they like it then it is right, end of'. He said 'the job of a good agency is not to be artistically brilliant or clever or win awards, it's primary role is to save the client from itself and give the customer what it wants'.
I too may have made tweaks to the Trinity badge. However, I have no idea as to what you mean by the implementation which as far as I can tell was spot on.
This is most demonstrated by the fact that Trinity merchandise sale has increased three-fold in four years. Not all due to the name/badge change but its a massive part.
The vast majority of fans love it, not all but you can't please all, they recognise it as Trinity in a way no other name including Wildcats could. Ask Michael Carter, he resisted it at first but fan pressure prevailed and he will tell you it's the best decision he's yet made. I pure cash terms it an extra top player per season,
How on earth can you argue against its implication? As a Trin fan since 2004 I can tell you it's probably the clubs greatest success to date, tragic I know but all the same, it's the truth. You may not like the look but that's purely your opinion and not wanting to be rude it means zilch. Mine means a lot because I'm the sap who buys the stuff and like a huge number of Trinity fans I'm willing to buy far more of it because I like the badge and I love the name. HTH.