I went to Toronto / Kingston / Ottawa last summer to visit family and take in a few sights . I walked to TWP ground to have a look at it so I could say been there and I walked to Ottawa's ground in Lansdowne Park . Ottawa's is a far superior ground in a nice area with a cinema , shops , restaurants etc . Also Ottawa's ground is used by the Red Blacks (CFL) and until last season the Fury (Football) so they are more used to having the city represented at that ground, not the case in Toronto .

Canadian fans support their teams , they aren't too bothered if there are Canadians in the team , the Raptors didn't start with many Canadians and I don't believe the Blue Jays did either . The side note from our experience of Kingston would be that the Leafs are better supported that the Senators in Ontario , so I believe Ottawa's support would come from that city and suburbs , but Gatineau , Quebec is across the river and it used the called Hull.

In the end most people believe our sport is struggling , so why not try expansion, English Super League clubs have to look at the bigger picture not just their club as we could end up being left with fewer full time clubs .

Ottawa makes a NATV deal more appealing that either Super League as a whole gain from or just the NA clubs if a SKY deal or other UK broadcaster is just for the UK clubs .

New York again increases the NATV deal chances and might lead to Chicago , Jacksonville and others . If SKY etc are concerned with fewer UK clubs well why not increase Super League to 14 clubs and get rid of the loop fixtures , with 14 clubs there will be more UK clubs than now .

The supposed best league in the world the NRL have 16 clubs and are probably going to expand so why are we so stuck on 12 .

WRT expansion the NFL does pretty good on TV deals outside of the US and if such a cash rich league is also looking at expansion clubs outside the US then I would suggest that it probably is the way to go.

Imagine the future where say the schedule of each English club is the play New York then Ottawa then Toronto on consecutive weekends (yes I know that's a long way off) , but what a 2 week holiday you could have .

I’d say the opposite. I find it bizarre we cling on to this vain hope that a club in a tiny town or village with only several hundred fans and no money will ever be anything other than a semi-pro club

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There isn't the money to commercially support a super league team, nor championship team for that matter, in the small m62 towns.

The sustainability of English clubs is dependant on the financial input of rich owners, do you not realise Semor Kurdi is the Multi-Millionaire owner of Newcastle Thunder? Do you not realise David Hughes is the Multi Millionaire owner of London Broncos. Did you not notice Hughes and Lenegan (another multi-Millionaire with interest in the Broncos) stabilised the club post 2014 hence their great showing in 2019. Can you not grasp that both these clubs have player development systems which do not exist in North America and never will so that's the scrutiny over, so you tell me how having Ottawa and Toronto in Superleague as opposed to having London and Newcastle in there will not be detrimental to the game.

Your own "scrutiny" is badly flawed here. With respect you seem to completely miss the prize of a Superleague of Millionaire owners stretching from London to Newcastle - just what everyone wants - to get away from being an M62 league?? You seem to completely miss there are no TV deals to be had in North America and they do not produce players there (so "scrutiny" over in ten seconds?) With respect how can you get this so badly wrong? Your not alone in this odd phenomenon?