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| Quote Fishermanscap="Fishermanscap"Unfortunately, certain elements of the LGBTQ community have weaponised what were genuine issues into a 'you are either with us or against us' campaign. They are quickly and efficiently alienating themselves as all the pressure groups do, ie 'is it because I is black' as an example.'"
Equally, people who don't like the LGBTQ community have weaponised terms like 'woke' against them and have convinced normal people that the whole community are someohow all extremist nutters who want there to be 100 types of sexuality and gender. It is all divisive nonsense. All these labels like woke, snowflake, gammon, virtue signalling, etc are all intended to supress proper debate and make us thing we all hate each other. In reality, 99% of us are still reasonable people. Until I see otherwise, I'll consider a woman taking a rainbow flag to a rugby league game a reasonable person who just wanted to express her views. |
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| Quote Fishermanscap="Fishermanscap" They seem to think it's there brief in life to guide and protect the rest of us like some self-appointed guardians of the galaxy. Who gave them that remit? I didn't,[u I wish they just shut up to be honest and let the rest of us look after ourselves.
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[uWhy not just accept the silly man's opinions and move on.[/u What have you got to be afraid of unless you actually think you might burn in hell, in which case he's got you.
[uIMHO you're wrong on this one, bigots can play RL, they always have,[/u I see no connection between the two. If Mr Folau went out and beat somebody up for being gay then I'd agree with you but for now its just hot air.'"
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| Quote roopy="roopy"If he'd stayed in RL he'd be an immortal now.
The Melbourne "big 4" were Cam Smith, Billy Slater, Greg Inglis and Izzy Folau, with many thinking Folau was destined to be the best of them. AFL and Union gave him huge money, because he was worth it.
At his age, and with so long out of the game, he probably isn't going to reach his previous level, but this guy was a once in a generation talent in his prime.'"
Absolutely - as a player he will be an asset to the league - he was arguably a better union player than SBW. I don't agree with his views but then I don't agree with some on here doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to state them. In the Catalans team there are two players who verbally abused a young bar girl - which is worse? |
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Last two posts + fishermanscap, spot on. Gender issues are personal.
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Can you all please stop talking sense before willzay stars calling you all homophobes
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| Quote splaz="splaz"Last two posts + fishermanscap, spot on. Gender issues are personal.'"
Being homosexual isn't a "gender issue"... |
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Quote Fishermanscap="Fishermanscap"Unfortunately, certain elements of the LGBTQ community have weaponised what were genuine issues into a 'you are either with us or against us' campaign. They are quickly and efficiently alienating themselves as all the pressure groups do, ie 'is it because I is black' as an example.
When will the woke right on brigade learn that no matter how justified your cause is you won't change peoples minds by telling them they are stupid and that they should shut up? All you do is alienate them and then you end up with Trump. Furthermore, they are right, who says your views (as an example) are indeed the righteous ones? You/me are no more morally or intellectually valid than they are, certainly not in their minds and it's an arrogant assumption that we are.
I don't agree with Mr Folau but that doesn't make him wrong, he might be right and his views may one day prevail, I doubt it and I hope not but frankly, I'm big enough and strong enough to accept his opinions. The problem with the left, liberal, woke whatever you want to call them, is that they will insist on taking the high ground and that pees people off. They seem to think it's there brief in life to guide and protect the rest of us like some self-appointed guardians of the galaxy. Who gave them that remit? I didn't, I wish they just shut up to be honest and let the rest of us look after ourselves.
Why not just accept the silly man's opinions and move on. What have you got to be afraid of unless you actually think you might burn in hell, in which case he's got you.
IMHO you're wrong on this one, bigots can play RL, they always have, I see no connection between the two. If Mr Folau went out and beat somebody up for being gay then I'd agree with you but for now its just hot air.'" |
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Ive not yet heard an answer to this, if it were black/white people someone was condemning to hell on a public forum would it still be an 'opinion' or racism?
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| Quote Seth="Seth"Ive not yet heard an answer to this, if it were black/white people someone was condemning to hell on a public forum would it still be an 'opinion' or racism?'"
or disabled people paying for actions in a former life? |
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| Quote IR80="IR80"or disabled people paying for actions in a former life?'"
What about aliens from Mars or Venus?
Surely Folau hates them and is just waiting for a chance to demonise them?
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