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Quote IR80="IR80"He hasn't been convicted as nobody has made a formal complaint, his comments were made in Aus, I am not sure how UK legislation could be applied.
But, wether convicted by a court of law he is guilty in the most important court when it comes to PR, the court of public opinion.
Nobody can deny what he posted, and nobody can defend it as anything other than hate speech.'"
Maybe some can defend it https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... rael-folau
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Quote IR80="IR80"He hasn't been convicted as nobody has made a formal complaint, his comments were made in Aus, I am not sure how UK legislation could be applied.
But, wether convicted by a court of law he is guilty in the most important court when it comes to PR, the court of public opinion.
Nobody can deny what he posted, and nobody can defend it as anything other than hate speech.'"
Maybe some can defend it https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... rael-folau
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| Quote sergeant pepper="sergeant pepper"For me it is. Even before you get into the mind field of believing in hell, I honestly couldn't care less.
Worth also pointing out that he also said hell awaits drunks, adulterers, liars, atheists and a few others too. Now I'm actually a few of them myself and still I couldn't care less. Doesn't mean I won't be entertained by his rugby talent tho.'"
Drunks, adulterers, liars, atheists all do so as their own choice. It's a more apt comparison to discrimination based on factors nobody chooses, like race and sex/gender. I image we wouldn't be taking the same "be reet" attitude towards him if he'd said all black people are going to hell. I also reckon the same people saying it's a mountain out of a molehill genuinely don't know the damage to LGBT people that normalising this does.
If you label anybody disgusted with homophobia as being a snowflake, showing fake outrage or anything of the like, all you are doing is telling us exactly what kind of person you are.
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they can try, agreed. But Vunipola shares the same bigoted views. It always amazes me that radical Religion seems to be at the heart of most hate, yet it is supposed to be all about love and tolerance. (steps quietly away from getting anywhere near a debate about religion)
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they can try, agreed. But Vunipola shares the same bigoted views. It always amazes me that radical Religion seems to be at the heart of most hate, yet it is supposed to be all about love and tolerance. (steps quietly away from getting anywhere near a debate about religion)
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ACL, hardly an unbiased view from organised bigots.
(can you find anything that isn't from the Grundian)
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ACL, hardly an unbiased view from organised bigots.
(can you find anything that isn't from the Grundian)
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| Quote IR80="IR80"ACL, hardly an unbiased view from organised bigots.
(can you find anything that isn't from the Grundian)'"
Just dropped you something from the other side of the world so you don't think im a Guardian reader 
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| Quote IR80="IR80"ACL, hardly an unbiased view from organised bigots.
(can you find anything that isn't from the Grundian)'"
Just providing you some balance as you appear to have adopted a position where by you feel you can speak on behalf of everybody.
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| Quote Exiled down south="Exiled down south"Just dropped you something from the other side of the world so you don't think im a Guardian reader
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lol, then you would have to go on my foes list! 
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| There really is something wrong with people who are up in arms about Folau’s signing.
Bird was convicted of smashing a glass in his girlfriends face, Lui beat his wife up, Monaghan performed a sexually explicit act on a dog and the list goes on....yet all were allowed to resurrect their careers over here.
Folau spoke out about what his beliefs are and what his religion states, and it is the crime of the century !
To make matters worse Wigan announce a LGBT day to show they don’t agree with him playing in SL yet they are the biggest foster home for bad boys !
I can’t wait to see Folau tear it up in SL, but I certainly won’t be going to the charade at Wigan !
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| Quote IR80="IR80"I have asked this question before, how is hitting a woman any worse than hitting a man?, violence is violence.'"
Because of the power dynamics. What would you be more outraged over - me punching Mike Tyson as hard as I can or me punching a newborn baby as hard as I can?
If you can see a difference in that, you can see why all violence is not equivalent - there is a spectrum.
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| Quote jammle="jammle"There really is something wrong with people who are up in arms about Folau’s signing.
Bird was convicted of smashing a glass in his girlfriends face, Lui beat his wife up, Monaghan performed a sexually explicit act on a dog and the list goes on....yet all were allowed to resurrect their careers over here.
Folau spoke out about what his beliefs are and what his religion states, and it is the crime of the century !
To make matters worse Wigan announce a LGBT day to show they don’t agree with him playing in SL yet they are the biggest foster home for bad boys !
I can’t wait to see Folau tear it up in SL, but I certainly won’t be going to the charade at Wigan !'"
And they were all widely condemned for it.
His religion also states the his elders can stone his son to death if hes rebellious. He can also stone his wife to death if shes not a virgin. and he also shouldnt wear polyester. and he cant work (play rugby) on a saturday.
i look forward to seeing him stick to every single thing his religion states...
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