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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"I think it's because Hull FC, under Radford, are far too inconsistent. Massive defeats, massive victories and everything else in between. Whilst you can win a cup competition in this way, you can't expect to finish high enough in a league format to have a good tilt at winning a Grand Final.
Under Powell, Cas are pretty consistent. Cas don't ever seem to go on a 'bad run' and lose a string of games like Hull do (eleven loses in a row at the end of 2018, and one win from the last 7 games of the season in 2019). Runs like that suggest Radford cannot turn around a losing team, at least not until the following season! Compare that to Cas, who in the last three seasons have never lost more than two league games in a row, and I think you see one reason why people question Radford more than Powell as a coach.
Radford cannot get his team playing consistently, and he can't turn things around when the team is under-performing. Powell can, and it's why Cas have been in the play-offs consistently whilst Hull have not. And that consistency is also why Cas have finished above Hull for five of the six seasons the two coaches have been at their respective clubs. So to answer your question, that record is why people mention Radford as the reason Hull might not do as well as expected, whilst not many think the same about Powell.'"
I can honestly say that as a Hull fan, I agree wholeheartedly with your post. The inconsistency within our team has been a source of great frustration for a few years now and when you have a coach that openly admits that he doesn't know how to get the best out of his players, then where do you go from there?? |
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| Quote cas all the way="cas all the way"Yeh we bottled the GF but apart from that we don't really lose the big games. Having beat Saints in the 2017 semi final. '"
I think we do underperform in big games.
2014 Challenge cup final.
2017 Grand Final (and let’s remember how lucky we were to beat St Helens in the semi-final too).
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2019 play-off game against Salford. Again, nilled. Again, never looked like scoring.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"Trinity bottom again, it, hasn't happened yet but, like the Wire, it could be your year
Apart form insisting on Wakefield at the bottom, the others aren't too bad though
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This is more like it
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When did we move to an 11 team superleague......or are saints that good they are in a league of there own ? |
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| Quote cas all the way="cas all the way"Apart from doing OK in the CC.'"
He's done better than OK, but for some b2b Challenge Cups at Wembley cloud their view of just how good a squad he had, and has for this coming season. Too many FC fans would see a top 5 finish as success. The majority, however, believe we will challenge this season, every team has cheerleaders and doom mongers. |
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| Quote cas all the way="cas all the way"Powell turned a team of nobody's into a top 4 team. Even little Cas are. Still a top 4 team since 2016 or so. Yeh we bottled the GF but apart from that we don't really lose the big games. Having beat Saints in the 2017 semi final.
Where as Radford should be doing much better with his squad and facilities but just isn't. Apart from doing OK in the CC.'"
So has Radford, he took over a average side and won us two major trophies with 4 years. He has made mistakes recruitment wise, but seems to have learned from that, think our best signing in the off season could be Purtill, think an experienced assistant is exactly what Radford needed.
Dont Cas spend the same as Hull, so dont get your point, our facilities are good, but financially work against us. |
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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"
11. Hull KR Signed lots of players, but they are all pretty poor.
12. Toronto Nowhere near enough depth to compete every week. Plus a points deduction.
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Clearwing leads the way with an intelligent analysis and most agree.....Picked this one out as it is very telling when it comes to the possibility SL will go to 10 at some point. Certainly not to 14 again. Worth remembering next time some people start constructing fantasy leagues. |
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In the previous thread we had for 2020 predictions. I’m sure I had Wakefield second bottom. However, in light of the injury crisis they are going through (even though the season hasn’t even started!!!) I would like to revise my prediction and put them bottom
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| Quote Steph Curry="Steph Curry"In the previous thread we had for 2020 predictions. I’m sure I had Wakefield second bottom. However, in light of the injury crisis they are going through (even though the season hasn’t even started!!!) I would like to revise my prediction and put them bottom'"
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We already have about 8/9 players out injured. I would like to revise my prediction and take us out of the top 5 and put us about 9th
Its a joke now.
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