1: St Helens
16 points clear in 2019, it hard to see Saints being as good as they were but equally hard to see them being
worse enough for the gap between them and the pack to completely disappear.

2: Warrington: Good signings and a strong squad. Wire were the challengers to Saints before taking there eye of the ball in 2019 in a similar way Saints did in 2018. It is hard to see wire falling apart as much this year. The only worry is the fitness of key players that have been injury prone in the past.

3: Wigan: Consistent and hard working, Wigan are likely to be constant enough to be at the top end of the table.
The loss of Williams is offset by the signing of Hastings (however this may not be the improvement people believe it will be). The main difference will be starting the year with a fit squad and George Burgess.

4:Hull: Some quality signings will make going to the KC daunting in 2020. Constancy will be the key, at the start of the year due to the high turn over in players and near the end when they have lost focus in previous years.

5: Castleford: Smart signings in the off season and the likelihood they will have a number 7 playing for the majority of the season for the first time since they finished top, Cas can be a force this year. The only question is can they re-find the form of 2017 and stay fit.

<<Gap>>

6: Catalan: Likely to improve with Maloney at 6 and without some disruptive players that have left. Home form will be enough to get Cats up the table, however away form will leave them in mid-table

7: Leeds: Likely to be solid. Signing will improve them but not inspiring enough to believe in real change.

8. Toronto: Quality players will make them a force and will likely win a lot at home but on the road fixtures could cost them early on and and a thin squad could catch up with them later in the year.

9: Salford: Loss of key players and the element of surprise gone, Salford are unlikely to stand out.

10. Wakefield: A poor end to 2019, Wakefield need to re-find form quickly. Players returning from injury could get them up the table but they rely heavily on a small number of players.

11. Huddersfield: Will improve with Sezer and Goulding, however they were so bad in 2019 it is hard to see them achieve much more than safety.

12. Hull KR: Worst squad in the league. Signing of Abdul could improve them but heavy favorites to go down.

I was thinking the same (not about getting Kear in...)

Yes he is. The rugby is absolutely dreadful to watch, his recruitment has been shocking, you’ve had the highest paid player in SL for two seasons and both seasons finished 4th, last season in a 2 horse race. Not to mention that over the last 10 games of last season you had the least amount of points. That’s relegation form for basically three months. A home playoff defeat to a pretty crap Cas team in front of about 5,500. No Widdop might buy him some time as he’ll have an excuse when you start poorly. Surprised to see a Warrington fan defend him, one game has saved his job.

Really? Are you a salary cap auditor that you are privy to such information.

No, Roberts and Austin have still been the highest paid players over the past two seasons though.

Says who?

Saints
Wigan
Warrington
Cas
Hull FC
Leeds
Salford
Huddersfield
Catalan
HKR
Toronto
Wakefield

Saints
Wire
Wigan
Hull
Cas
Catalans
Leeds
Huddersfield
Salford
Toronto
Wakefield
Hull KR

GF - Wire
CC - Hull

Maybe I didn’t phrase that as well as I could have.
By “attitude problem” I wasn’t really thinking if the traditional ‘petulant teenager’ attitude (though that’s exactly what Connor has).
I was more thinking about the number of times I’ve seen their players almost collectively stop bothering when they are behind on the scoreboard. That leads to them getting a right hammering rather than a routine loss and that’s then harder to put right the following week. Look at some of those defeats last season - 63 points, 62 points, 55 points, 44 points (twice) and 40 points. That’s a team that gives up when the going gets tough. On ability, they are too good a team to suffer so many heavy defeats, so if it’s not ability then it’s down to attitude.

i think if you have to answer to Manu M'au in the changing rooms afterwards, you're going to put in for the full 80