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Quote: wrencat1873 " However, it's a downward spiral and the sport has to grow or die, at least as any kind of pro sport. '"


The sport broke away from Union in 1896. Clubs like Hull, Leeds, Wakefield, Saints, Wigan and Warrington did this.

They hoped to expand and clubs like South Shields, Coventry, Ebbw Vale, Streatham and Mitcham, Lancaster and Liverpool came and went.

"Growth" failed and continued to fail from 1896 to 2020. It hasn't grown in 124 years but nor has it died - the last quarter of a century has seen it operate professionally.

It only dies two ways.

1. If the game can no longer get a paying TV deal or
2. If the game substitutes real clubs of substance for phoney nonsense clubs.

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "You make these ridiculous comparisons between attendances for the Toulouse rugby union team and the Toulouse soccer team, versus attendances for the Toulouse rugby league team. These comparisons are irrelevant to future expectations, because Toulouse Olympique rugby league club is not yet playing in a top tier fully professional competition, while the teams from the other two codes already are and have been for decades.

Once Toulouse Olympique is promoted to Super League, one can expect their attendances to skyrocket to a minimum of 6,000, and possibly as high as 10,000. We saw this skyrocketing attendance for the Catalans Dragons, once the club was promoted to Super League.'"

1. THREAD DRIFTED BY THE TROLL AGAIN

2. No.
I work in the realms of fact and statistics.
You are strangely absent from the thread regarding how to assist French RL BTW. You did post 2 references to Wakefield that were stranglely removed and replaced with a singular reference to a "pit village", but you've made no comment on how to help?
It's almost like you're a troll????

Instead, you infect this thread about a local side full of local players and make unfounded and unsupported claims at to what would happen if Toulouse don't bottle it again this year.

To reiterate. 1,100.....less a few dozen, bothered to attend the final play-off game of 2019 in France and fewer than 2,000 bothered with the french domestic final.
I understand with you being French that some things might get lost in translation, but surely, given the precise nature of many of your posts, you have some grasp of the fact that French RL is bu99ered and Toulouse in an English Comp is not the answer...especially when their playmaker is a Cook Island International, born an Australian and still not good enough for the NSW cup!

If you are the expert on all things French RL, please feel free to post in the correct thread and not the one about the progress made in London over the last decade whilst Catalans have gone backwards.

Back on thread.
London's 2nd string, featuring 18 London based players lost recently to Coventry, whilst the First Team Squad with 15 London trained plaers that day fell to Hull FC, by 4 scores to one.
33 Londoners across the 2 squads with the academy as well...that's more cockneys that the French have French players in their international Squad c020.gif

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Quote: La Grange "1. THREAD DRIFTED BY THE TROLL AGAIN

2. No.
I work in the realms of fact and statistics.
You are strangely absent from the thread regarding how to assist French RL BTW. You did post 2 references to Wakefield that were stranglely removed and replaced with a singular reference to a "pit village", but you've made no comment on how to help?
It's almost like you're a troll????

Instead, you infect this thread about a local side full of local players and make unfounded and unsupported claims at to what would happen if Toulouse don't bottle it again this year.

To reiterate. 1,100.....less a few dozen, bothered to attend the final play-off game of 2019 in France and fewer than 2,000 bothered with the french domestic final.
I understand with you being French that some things might get lost in translation, but surely, given the precise nature of many of your posts, you have some grasp of the fact that French RL is bu99ered and Toulouse in an English Comp is not the answer...especially when their playmaker is a Cook Island International, born an Australian and still not good enough for the NSW cup!

If you are the expert on all things French RL, please feel free to post in the correct thread and not the one about the progress made in London over the last decade whilst Catalans have gone backwards.

Back on thread.
London's 2nd string, featuring 18 London based players lost recently to Coventry, whilst the First Team Squad with 15 London trained plaers that day fell to Hull FC, by 4 scores to one.
33 Londoners across the 2 squads with the academy as well...that's more cockneys that the French have French players in their international Squad
You deal in facts do you? So please explain: why would the heartless heathen from Lower Hutt feel the need to enter this forum now under another identity?

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "

Once Toulouse Olympique is promoted to Super League, one can expect their attendances to skyrocket to a minimum of 6,000, and possibly as high as 10,000. We saw this skyrocketing attendance for the Catalans Dragons, once the club was promoted to Super League.

'"


The requirement of any new team from abroad into Superleague was never attendances.

It was and remains develop SL players and bring in local TV money, That's exactly what Superleague asked of Toulouse when they re-entered the game here with a plan for SL.

It was what was expected of Toronto and it was what Perez promised on behalf of TWP as well.

Catalans attendances are irrelevent, they were supposed to bring in French TV money and nurture the best French players to create a competetive French International side.

All three clubs are sadly - yes sadly - complete and utter failures who cannot be allowed to replace clubs in Superleague who do develop quality pro-players and do get a TV deal.

This is all very simple stuff to understand if people have the goodwill and mental capacity to understand and accept.

All three clubs are total failures failures on the criteria for success - New players and TV money - and would destroy Superleague if they were all allowed in in 2022..........

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