76030_1540929970.jpgJESUS WEPT HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.
There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg
Quote: Trainman "I was just using Widnes as an example. Whether they deserve to be in SL is a separate debate.
I feel as a sport we need to make some real tough decisions to move forward. Franchises would allow those decisions to be made.
Set a minimum criteria to apply. The league then decides whether to approve & expand the league or not based on the application and the potential benefits to the sport. Any team that is admitted then has the security to build strong foundations and grow.'"
I was a massive fan of Licencing, but they really did mess it up....by "they", I mean both the RFL and the SL Chairme and Owners. If we are to return to it, then there needs to be a clear understanding of why it's coming back and the method of being promoted or demoted from it.
If we are doing it to secure the games future, then fine, but if it's just to protect the "average" SL clubs, then I'd steer clear.
77270_1562571079.jpgThe Leigh and Wakefield fans mentality......
Say something negative about any other team than theirs - Its an opinion
Say something negative about Leigh and Wakefield - TROLL:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_77270.jpg
1506.jpg[quote:18jc6kzm]I wish everyone would read bramleyrhino's post two or three times just to get it through some thick skulls[/quote:18jc6kzm]
[quote:18jc6kzm]Mr bramleyrhino speaks a lot of sense.[/quote:18jc6kzm]
[quote="Jamie Jones-Buchanan":18jc6kzm]"I'd never forgive myself if a child of mine was born in Lancashire.[/quote:18jc6kzm]:1506.jpg
Quote: Ruune Rebellion "If we expand to 16 teams the sky money will be diluted and clubs will go bust'"
Only if you assume a zero-growth model, which is the last thing we should be assuming.
I don't think that we should expand to 16 (or indeed 14 for that matter) because I don't think we have enough talent to maintain the quality of competition, but "clubs will go bust because they aren't increasing revenue from other income streams" is the last reason why we shouldn't do something to improve the sport.
Quote: Binosh "Leigh, Bradford, Toulouse, Widnes would all add something to SL.
There is no middle ground in SL due to not being enough clubs in it, you are either in the playoffs or relegation battle and that in itself is no good for the sport.
If you are unfortunate to be in a relegation spot the target should be aiming for safety and not the playoffs. the target should be realistic and achievable.
Plus, the variety of matches now on Sky is awful and must be affecting viewing figures, if I have to watch Leeds or Castleford again im going to cancel my subscription.
There needs to be more variety and in my opinion 16 teams would be ideal.'"
Then I'd give Sky Sports Arena a wide berth, tonight.
Quote: bramleyrhino "Only if you assume a zero-growth model, which is the last thing we should be assuming.
I don't think that we should expand to 16 (or indeed 14 for that matter) because I don't think we have enough talent to maintain the quality of competition, but "clubs will go bust because they aren't increasing revenue from other income streams" is the last reason why we shouldn't do something to improve the sport.'"
That's the biggest issue for me, there's not enough talent in today's competition, compared with say 5 years ago, and it's light years away from 10 years ago.
If we get any increase on the previous TV deal it will be a huge relief, as they're (and the customer sat in front of their TV sets) paying for an inferior product.
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HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.
There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. 
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