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Quote: wrencat1873 "The main point is that, by not having relegation or, more impotently, not having the opportunity of promotion, the game had royally screwed over all of the clubs outside of Super League AND prevented the future inclusion of the N. American wanabe's.

Therefore, after discussion among ALL of the clubs, "we" had the all new 3 x 8 structure, which, despite some of the drama that was created in the "middle 8", was an absolute disaster and thank goodness, this was consigned to history.

However, allowing clubs to gain promotion is the right thing for the game, albeit, it's massively painful and damaging for any relegated club, although, they do of course have the chance to regain their spot should they achieve promotion in future.

The game does need to re visit funding for the Championship, which has to be more evenly spread and let's be honest, this conversation is only taking place because Leeds are in danger.
If the bottom 34 clubs were KR, Trinity, Salford and Huddersfield, nobody (apart from their own fans) would give a toss whether they went down (or out of business).

Our sport is dominated by the needs and wishes of the top 4/.5 clubs and the rest have to fall in behind them, which as they are the main drivers for income / investment, is probably right.
Largely, they (including Leeds) have got what they wanted so, to start moaning that relegation is wrong is just a little sad.
Your argument is not one of principle, more to do with self preservation.'"


Yep.

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If we expand to 16 teams the sky money will be diluted and clubs will go bust

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Quote: Ruune Rebellion "If we expand to 16 teams the sky money will be diluted and clubs will go bust'"


Only if you assume a zero-growth model, which is the last thing we should be assuming.

I don't think that we should expand to 16 (or indeed 14 for that matter) because I don't think we have enough talent to maintain the quality of competition, but "clubs will go bust because they aren't increasing revenue from other income streams" is the last reason why we shouldn't do something to improve the sport.

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Quote: Ruune Rebellion "If we expand to 16 teams the sky money will be diluted and clubs will go bust'"

What do we think will happen when the Sky money is lowered next contract time?

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Quote: Binosh "Leigh, Bradford, Toulouse, Widnes would all add something to SL.

There is no middle ground in SL due to not being enough clubs in it, you are either in the playoffs or relegation battle and that in itself is no good for the sport.

If you are unfortunate to be in a relegation spot the target should be aiming for safety and not the playoffs. the target should be realistic and achievable.

Plus, the variety of matches now on Sky is awful and must be affecting viewing figures, if I have to watch Leeds or Castleford again im going to cancel my subscription.

There needs to be more variety and in my opinion 16 teams would be ideal.'"

Then I'd give Sky Sports Arena a wide berth, tonight.

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Quote: bramleyrhino "Only if you assume a zero-growth model, which is the last thing we should be assuming.

I don't think that we should expand to 16 (or indeed 14 for that matter) because I don't think we have enough talent to maintain the quality of competition, but "clubs will go bust because they aren't increasing revenue from other income streams" is the last reason why we shouldn't do something to improve the sport.'"

That's the biggest issue for me, there's not enough talent in today's competition, compared with say 5 years ago, and it's light years away from 10 years ago.
If we get any increase on the previous TV deal it will be a huge relief, as they're (and the customer sat in front of their TV sets) paying for an inferior product.

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