FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > Magic weekend abroad.
62 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
RankPostsTeam
International Star17980
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
simpsons/simp006.gif
:simpsons/simp006.gif



Quote: bramleyrhino "What does "strengthening our heartlands" mean? What does it involve? Throwing more money at unviable clubs?

Focusing on the heartlands has got us to this point, with falling crowds, declining sponsorship values and players receiving real-terms pay cuts.

If there was a way of reversing that by "focusing on the heartlands", expansion isn't on the agenda.'"


Far from strengthening the "heartlands", IF we end up with 4/5 N. American sides plus Toulouse in SL, the "heartlands" will be about done.
You would still have Leeds, Saints, Wigan, Wire and Hull FC, with the rest either "demoted" to The Championship or gone for good.

Some, like you, may say that they deserve it but, I think this idea will kill the whole game over here and probably lead to the remaining SL sides wanting to switch to Union.
You would see even lower crowds, plus an additional circa £500,000 cost for the overseas games.
Therefore without a significantly better deal, even the "strong" will wither and die

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain12
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 20195 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2019Jun 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
77638_1560499787.jpg
Truly, madly, deeply into Rugby League!:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_77638.jpg



I had a magical weekend recently. I might only be a cowboy and a binman but i can afford the odd break here and there. I saddled up my hog and rode out to Mablethorpe for a few days (thursday-Sunday) and had a lovely time.
The town of Mablethorpe is quaint and there were plenty of people in the pubs for me to talk to about my favourite sports team The Keighley Cougars. I made a lot of great friends while i was there, and i look forward to my next trip.

My hog is a wheely bin btw.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman12792
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2020Oct 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
1506.jpg
[quote:18jc6kzm]I wish everyone would read bramleyrhino's post two or three times just to get it through some thick skulls[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote:18jc6kzm]Mr bramleyrhino speaks a lot of sense.[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote="Jamie Jones-Buchanan":18jc6kzm]"I'd never forgive myself if a child of mine was born in Lancashire.[/quote:18jc6kzm]:1506.jpg



Quote: wrencat1873 "Far from strengthening the "heartlands", IF we end up with 4/5 N. American sides plus Toulouse in SL, the "heartlands" will be about done.
You would still have Leeds, Saints, Wigan, Wire and Hull FC, with the rest either "demoted" to The Championship or gone for good.
'"


None of this is answering the question of what "focusing on the heartlands" means in the context of taking this sport forward. It's OK to be against overseas expansion, but it's not unreasonable for people to ask those making that argument to explain what the alternative actually is.

Quote: wrencat1873 "Some, like you, may say that they deserve it'"


I wouldn't put it so bluntly, but clubs aren't and shouldn't be exempt from the realities of the modern world. Every business, sports or otherwise, needs to keep evolving their product to reflect the demands and expectations of the market. It's one of the reasons why Jamie Oliver lost 22 restaurants last month. RL clubs don't deserve to be exempt from this reality just because they're RL clubs or because it's "hard to do".

Quote: wrencat1873 " I think this idea will kill the whole game over here and probably lead to the remaining SL sides wanting to switch to Union.'"

On what basis? If Leeds, Wigan, Warrington or Hull can be profitable playing alongside overseas clubs, why would they move to another code where
a) the cost base is higher
b) the market is crowded
c) the current situation at Yorkshire Carnegie suggests that there isn't much of a market for professional RU in this part of the world?

Quote: wrencat1873 "You would see even lower crowds, plus an additional circa £500,000 cost for the overseas games.'"

Why are smaller crowds a given? If Leeds v Toronto or Wigan v New York can be sold as a big event to the local public, why should we expect smaller crowds?

Quote: wrencat1873 "Therefore without a significantly better deal, even the "strong" will wither and die'"


The whole crux of this debate is about how we offer more to broadcasters and sponsors to get more revenue into the game. I go back to the underlying point - expansion doesn't have to be the way to do this and expansion isn't the end goal, but nobody on this forum who is shouting "focus on the heartlands" seems to have a suggestion on how we offer that added value to broadcasters and sponsors to justify that revenue.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner17278
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
9243.jpg
:9243.jpg



Seen a few people pushing for Nottingham on social media, and while it is indeed a good nightout there and the City is new territory for the game the City Ground has had a refurb for 25 years (ahead of Euro 96) and with unreserved seats would only fit 28k.

RankPostsTeam
International Star17980
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
simpsons/simp006.gif
:simpsons/simp006.gif



Quote: UllFC "Seen a few people pushing for Nottingham on social media, and while it is indeed a good nightout there and the City is new territory for the game the City Ground has had a refurb for 25 years (ahead of Euro 96) and with unreserved seats would only fit 28k.'"


Not entirely new territory, there used to be a second tier side down there back in the 80's / 90's

62 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
62 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


3.6455078125:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
190
Recent
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
33s
Shopping list for 2025
Dave K.
5572
38s
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
47s
Rumours and signings v9
tyr
28893
56s
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
496
57s
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Zig
13
1m
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
190
1m
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
1m
Film game
karetaker
5600
2m
War of the Roses
karetaker
29
3m
Pre Season - 2025
UllFC
181
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
How many games will we win
Start@1873
1
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
TODAY
Catalan Away
happyjack
2
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
karetaker
14
TODAY
Fixtures
Start@1873
10
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
NickyKiss
10
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
265
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
483
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1249
England's Women Demolish The W..
1069
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1306
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1099
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1357
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1904
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2121
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2365
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1940
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2175
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2642
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2069
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2146
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,312 ↓-7280,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
190
Recent
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
33s
Shopping list for 2025
Dave K.
5572
38s
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
47s
Rumours and signings v9
tyr
28893
56s
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
496
57s
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Zig
13
1m
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
190
1m
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
1m
Film game
karetaker
5600
2m
War of the Roses
karetaker
29
3m
Pre Season - 2025
UllFC
181
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
How many games will we win
Start@1873
1
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
TODAY
Catalan Away
happyjack
2
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
karetaker
14
TODAY
Fixtures
Start@1873
10
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
NickyKiss
10
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
265
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
483
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1249
England's Women Demolish The W..
1069
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1306
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1099
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1357
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1904
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2121
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2365
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1940
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2175
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2642
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2069
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2146


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!