Quote: Wellsy13 "To play devil's advocate...'"
That role, more often than not, is assumed by those who wish to aologise for soeone who doesn't deserve their support.....but let's continue
Quote: Wellsy13 "If I say "Do they allow homosexuals in Saudi Arabia?" does that make me homophobic? '"
No. It makes you someone who is asking a question about the laws of a sovereign state and that state's opinion of a minority group.
Quote: Wellsy13 "I've simply changed the group (which was not a discriminatory phrase) and the place. '"
No. Swinton isn't a country with it's own laws and either being Black or Gay is not a choice
Quote: Wellsy13 "Is the phrase used not more a slur on the people of Swinton being less progressive (not a serious one), just like the follow up one?'"
No.....It was a racist comment. Do they allow gay People in Swinton would have been exactly the same......thank christ there wasn't a black Gay there.
Quote: Wellsy13 "I think when we take the emotion out of the equation, it's actually a fascinating discussion.'"
No it's not. It's not a topic we should discuss at all!
I am a second Generation Irish Catholic, born in London but raised in Dublin, now living in New Zealand. I have been shot once, stabbed 3 times, bought and sold many pubs, I have buried a wife who died too young, have 2 great Kids and a beautiful granddaughter. I own 5 businesses and have had a successful life thus far and I look forward to a retirement where I can drive across the globe in a bus that I have converted to be a mobile home......these are the things that define me......Not the colour of my skin!
Race and racism is not up for discussion. It is not a grey area.......it is, to put it bluntly a black and white issue!