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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"I do think that the Shenton one (and one last weekend) were slightly different to most. The defender who’s offside is directly between the dummy half and the first receiver, rather than the dummy half just throwing the ball at someone lying, out of the way, at the side of the ruck.
Just like the dummy half running at the marker who isn’t square, it’s taking advantage of a defender who hasn’t got into the right place.'" please don't defend it, it's cheating plain and simple.
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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"I do think that the Shenton one (and one last weekend) were slightly different to most. The defender who’s offside is directly between the dummy half and the first receiver, rather than the dummy half just throwing the ball at someone lying, out of the way, at the side of the ruck.
Just like the dummy half running at the marker who isn’t square, it’s taking advantage of a defender who hasn’t got into the right place.'"
It he passed to Mcshane he would have caught it. He threw it to the floor though.
All teams do it. No ones "cleaner" than any other despite some stating to the contrary.
The game as a whole needs to take steps to eradicate it though.
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| Quote mrpurfect="mrpurfect"please don't defend it, it's cheating plain and simple.'"
I think there’s a subtle difference. If the defender is between the dummy half and first receiver, I have no issue. It’s the same as the dummy half running at a defender who hasn’t got square at marker.
When it crosses into cheating (in my opinion) is when the dummy half throws the ball at a defender who is at the side of the ruck in a position that doesn’t actually impede the pass.
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| First time I've seen Cas do it from what I can remember. Hate to see it. Ref should just say play on.
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| Quote Bull Mania="Bull Mania"It he passed to Mcshane he would have caught it. He threw it to the floor though.
All teams do it. No ones "cleaner" than any other despite some stating to the contrary.
The game as a whole needs to take steps to eradicate it though.'"
Nope. As far as I’m concerned if a defender is between the dummy half and the first receiver, it’s a penalty.
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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"Nope. As far as I’m concerned if a defender is between the dummy half and the first receiver, it’s a penalty.'"
It he's stood up then you may have a point. He was on the floor though. Nothing stopping Shenton passing to Mcshane cleanly. Think you're in the minority.
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| If somebody said a Cas player would milk a penalty like that, the last one I would suspect is Shenton!
What next, Danny Brough encouraging a youngster.
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| Quote cas all the way="cas all the way"First time I've seen Cas do it from what I can remember. Hate to see it. Ref should just say play on.'"
This is down to the ref from the point when cas got penalised which resulted in Cats first try.
Cant remember who it was but the cas player had no chance whatsoever of clearing from the quick play the ball which resulted in a penalty and a try...from that point on they probably thought sod it, its our turn,then the Cats do it....the games a joke.
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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"Nope. As far as I’m concerned if a defender is between the dummy half and the first receiver, it’s a penalty.'"
Sorry but don't agree. Shenton definitely played for it and it shouldn't happen.
As for the game. Surprised we are only 8 behind. Can't see us getting close and it looks like it will be Wakey 3rd and Cas 4th for Easter.
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| Quote Bigboff="Bigboff"This is down to the ref from the point when cas got penalised which resulted in Cats first try.
Cant remember who it was but the cas player had no chance whatsoever of clearing from the quick play the ball which resulted in a penalty and a try...from that point on they probably thought sod it, its our turn'"
True. If you notice after Shenton did it.... Gigot did it a little while later on our prop Clark. Clark had a moan at Gigot and he pointed to Shenton.... Just shows teams will do anything for a penalty.
Down to the game to stop it
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| Quote cas all the way="cas all the way"Sorry but don't agree. Shenton definitely played for it and it shouldn't happen.
As for the game. Surprised we are only 8 behind. Can't see us getting close and it looks like it will be Wakey 3rd and Cas 4th for Easter.'"
Maybe he did, but as soon as we start giving penalties for “intent”, things get very tricky. What’s to say he didn’t just fumble the ball? It would have made its way to McShane but for the offside player.
It’s the rule that needs to change from offside to obstruction in my opinion.
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