So in your view history (both older and more recent) counts for nothing...sad.

Widnes were one of the founders of RL IIRC and won the league (and World Club Challenge) in the late 80s as well as being multiple winners of the CC in the late 70s- early 80s. My first trip to Wembley was the 1993 CC final to watch Widnes play Wigan.

More than just the wins though, it is also about the some of the players and coaches. Just look at some of the players that came through Widnes - Alan Tait, Martin Offiah, Jonathan Davies, Andy Gregory, Joe Lydon, the various Mylers and Hulmes. Some great names!

RL existed long before Super League!

I went to the game on Sunday and the buzz was great. Was with my dad and he said he noticed people who hadn't been the game in 20 years, I've got friends with the same attitude, "I'm not paying to watch that e". It was good to see the town rally behind the team, sitting rock bottom of the championship and bringing in 5500 fans is a great effort by the club. With the release of some quality first teamers this week, I can see results dropping off, fastly followed by the crowds. It's all about survival this year which for me is almost certain, but play offs will be too far away.

That's just the way I see it for Leigh still, However, apart from Toronto (and surprise package Sheffield - it's amazing what a couple of class half backs can do!) everyone else has been more than capable of taking points off each other. e.g. we've beaten Fev and Toulouse at home, which we failed miserably to do last season, 'Fax have struggled against everyone, (except us!) and Fev have blown hot and cold, etc. etc. I'm not entirely sure that the play-offs are beyond you - although that largely depends on who you can manage to keep hold of. Here's hoping we manage three closer games against you, than we did in SL! And, those three games excepted, good luck for the season.