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| Quote: bramleyrhino "Except, as I pointed out, the "objectives" that people seem to be holding them to seem to be
The objectives are not made up- go look back at all the rfl statements giving their reasons for artificially promoting Catalan.
Toronto and every other expansion club would also lack these audiences, the point is that the name/location of the club does not effect the ability to attract sponsors much at all.
What makes you think that Toronto or New York or any other half baked expansion team would have a more sustainable audience than Paris or London did? Catalan is a bit of an anomaly in that there was already a pretty decent RL following in Perpingnan.
Sponsors could help but chasing them blindly with gimicks won't cause any sponsor to act in the way Natwest do for the RFU.
RL is not played in nearly enough schools in the big northern cities, there are huge sections of manchester and leeds that either play RU or no rugby code at all and huge sections of Liverpool where people wouldn't even know what RL is. If we don't effectively grow our game in its supposed heartland then what chance has it of growing elsewhere?
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| Wigan |
29 |
768 |
338 |
430 |
48 |
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| Hull KR |
29 |
731 |
344 |
387 |
44 |
| Warrington |
29 |
769 |
351 |
418 |
42 |
| Leigh |
29 |
580 |
442 |
138 |
33 |
| Salford |
28 |
556 |
561 |
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32 |
| St.Helens |
28 |
618 |
411 |
207 |
30 |
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| Catalans |
27 |
475 |
427 |
48 |
30 |
| Leeds |
27 |
530 |
488 |
42 |
28 |
| Huddersfield |
27 |
468 |
658 |
-190 |
20 |
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27 |
425 |
735 |
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15 |
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27 |
328 |
894 |
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6 |
| LondonB |
27 |
317 |
916 |
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6 |
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| Wakefield |
27 |
1032 |
275 |
757 |
52 |
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| Toulouse |
26 |
765 |
388 |
377 |
37 |
| Bradford |
28 |
723 |
420 |
303 |
36 |
| York |
29 |
695 |
501 |
194 |
32 |
| Widnes |
27 |
561 |
502 |
59 |
29 |
| Featherstone |
27 |
634 |
525 |
109 |
28 |
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| Sheffield |
26 |
626 |
526 |
100 |
28 |
| Doncaster |
26 |
498 |
619 |
-121 |
25 |
| Halifax |
26 |
509 |
650 |
-141 |
22 |
| Batley |
26 |
422 |
591 |
-169 |
22 |
| Swinton |
28 |
484 |
676 |
-192 |
20 |
| Barrow |
25 |
442 |
720 |
-278 |
19 |
| Whitehaven |
25 |
437 |
826 |
-389 |
18 |
| Dewsbury |
27 |
348 |
879 |
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4 |
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HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.
There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. 
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