Hard to see any result other than a Wigan win in the final. Unless Cas are going to pull an unexpected performance out of the bag tomorrow, Wigan should take that at their place.

And while Warrington were deserved winners tonight, it was hard to avoid the conclusion that they played to nearly their best, while Saints were suffering the same mediocre form which - as others have pointed out - has been ongoing now since mid-season. Wigan will offer a lot more in attack than Saints did, and their defence out wide is far better than Saints who carry a non-tackling scrum half and a non-tackling fullback.


Saints have a big problem though. They cannot win when there is any pressure or expectation on them. The only big game they've won in the last seven years was the 2014 Grand Final, and notably, nobody expected them to do so and they were rank outsiders. In literally every single big game for the last seven years where Saints were expected to win, they've lost. That's the worst record of choking in my rugby league watching history of 30 years.

Saints have had too much their own way all season. Not enough adversity. Similiar to cas last season. Holbrook's gleeful face beaming down from the stands, everything wrapped up perfectly in a neat little package. Saints fans learnt a profound lesson tonight, a profound lesson.

Typical Saints response by there young players diving back holding his head, ala Richardsons typical show boating. Concentrate on the game girls.

The problem with saints is that they have a yellow belly, the pack is soft as wire and catalans have shown us.

you are joking right? Nearly our best! Did you watch Ratchford try to give you the game, along with Westwood, Hughes and G King? You were awful tonight...awful against a bang average Warrington team who tried their best to throw it at times. Did Roby and Barba even play?

I wonder how he’ll be thought of in the future now by the Saints fans. A few months back they were saying he was the best overseas player since the likes of Meninga or Lyon.

They didn't offer him enough opportunities near the white line.

He was great right up until his agent landed him a deal back in Oz. After which time he became much less effective. Still fantastic to watch for the first 2/3rds of the season, and any other club would have loved to have him. But once the Oz deal was on the table, he clearly wasn't the same player.

Roy enjoy your off season its just started. Leave the big finals to the big teams.

How could Barba be right up there, a full back that cant tackle will never be up anywhere. Hes good with the ball against the lesser teams. Thats it. They guy has no heart.

Not sure why Barba is getting so much stick, it was a forwards game, very little chances for any of the backs, he didn't stand out but didn't do a lot wrong either

His efforts in defence on Lineham left a lot to be desired. Why be a Full Back when you can't tackle?