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| Quote ThePrinter="ThePrinter"Wins against Widnes (a) Halifax (a) and Toronto (h) would be enough and is doable despite our struggles. Have Salford at home but don’t fancy us to win that.'"
We haven’t played well at Widnes for god knows how long, and following today’s result the Vikings will be desperate. I don’t see that as an easy win at all.
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| Quote Leeds_Rhydon="Leeds_Rhydon"We haven’t played well at Widnes for god knows how long, and following today’s result the Vikings will be desperate. I don’t see that as an easy win at all.'"
Everyone’s desperate in the Middle 8’s. I don’t think it’ll be easy either but it is winnable. We lost by 2 today to a team that is much better than Widnes. Denis Betts for all the criticism he got at Widnes always could pull out a result at home and did against us a few times (a few fortunate timings pre & post World Club Challenge matches) the current Widnes team is in even worst shape than Leeds at the moment.
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| Leeds' game against Toronto is looking VERY tasty
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| As a rovers fan today’s result & display was great but I do feel for clubs that finished 9th & 10th could still go down but win more games than teams who finished 7th & 8th. But I am enjoying the middle 8s.
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| Quote Beverley red="Beverley red"As a rovers fan today’s result & display was great [ubut I do feel for clubs that finished 9th & 10th could still go down but win more games than teams who finished 7th & 8th.[/u But I am enjoying the middle 8s.'"
I don't really understand the underlined tbh.
If a team finishes outside the Top 8 before the split it's generally because they've lost more games - in this seasons case, 2 fewer wins than those above.
After the split, those in 9th and 10th are playing 4 Champ clubs and the 2 teams below them in SL. While 7th and 8th are playing the top 6 in SL, so it's hardly a like for like comparison.
You'd expect a team finishing say 9th to beat the Champ clubs and at least a couple of the SL Clubs beneath them. If a team that finishes 9th or 10th like you say goes down, they'd have to lose a fair number of games against teams they really should be beating.
Although saying that I would feel for a Club if they were to go down after finishing 9th after 23 rounds of SL and comfortably above 11th and 12th.
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| Quote ThePrinter="ThePrinter"Yes I agree do something, but something smart not the mess that they did.
Leave McDermott’s exit until end of the season or replace him back then with a proper new coach not this mess of a setup with Kevin “I’m not the coach” Sinfield. Sinfield hasn’t done anything to suggest he’s ready for the roles he’s taken on but people at the club have built this idea that his is because they had to find someone responsible for our success and it couldn’t be McDermott and GH because they’ve spent way too many years criticing and writing them off only to be made to look stupid. Irony now is they been made to look stupid again just in a different way to previously.'"
THey couldn't get the corporate sponsors to committ with McDermott in charge - they were asking for a big uplift and they had a lot more spaces to fill. They were getting push back everywhere - he had to go it was a commercial not a rugby decision.
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| Quote Shifty Cat="Shifty Cat"I don't really understand the underlined tbh.
If a team finishes outside the Top 8 before the split it's generally because they've lost more games - in this seasons case, 2 fewer wins than those above.
After the split, those in 9th and 10th are playing 4 Champ clubs and the 2 teams below them in SL. While 7th and 8th are playing the top 6 in SL, so it's hardly a like for like comparison.
You'd expect a team finishing say 9th to beat the Champ clubs and at least a couple of the SL Clubs beneath them. If a team that finishes 9th or 10th like you say goes down, they'd have to lose a fair number of games against teams they really should be beating.
Although saying that I would feel for a Club if they were to go down after finishing 9th after 23 rounds of SL and comfortably above 11th and 12th.'"
I don’t understand it either it was not meant to be underlined just some button I have pushed but don’t know which one. I do like the idea of the million pound game but championship top & super league bottom should go up/down 10/11should play home & away 2/3 six game play off bottom 2 million pound game if they are determined to get 30 games in. Better still 14 team league bottom down top up 13 play 2 game for super league spot.
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| Quote Beverley red="Beverley red"I don’t understand it either it was not meant to be underlined just some button I have pushed but don’t know which one. I do like the idea of the million pound game but championship top & super league bottom should go up/down 10/11should play home & away 2/3 six game play off bottom 2 million pound game if they are determined to get 30 games in. Better still 14 team league bottom down top up 13 play 2 game for super league spot.'"
! up 1 down seems a whole lot simpler, either a straight swap or by a "million pound game".
The big issue for next season, if we change to 1 up 1 down, will be that the promoted side could have a very short lived SL existence as they will be favourites for the drop.
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"THey couldn't get the corporate sponsors to committ with McDermott in charge - they were asking for a big uplift and they had a lot more spaces to fill. They were getting push back everywhere - he had to go it was a commercial not a rugby decision.'"
Any evidence of this or is it just another thing you’ve dreamt up in your head and are trying to push as fact?
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| My take on McDermott leaving was that the club would have been OK with him staying until the end of the year but he forced the issue by refusing to budge, making them pull the pin instantly.
Management at Leeds clearly underestimated just how bad the squad has become, and also overestimated how much of an impact Sinfield might have. Sinfield's record is won 3, drawn 1 and lost 4 with average points against 30 per game, with 2 of the wins coming against M8 Championship teams and the other vs Widnes at home. Bag McDermott all you like (I will because I think he contributed hugely to the fall in standards over the past couple of seasons), but Sinfield's record is terrible.
We've seen virtually no improvement since he replaced McDermott. Defensively we're worse, which is very worrying because a lot of that is about attitude. With the benefit of hindsight we should have gone for someone with more experience and credibility alongside Sinfield, just to get us through this season.
I think we'll squeak through, avoiding the MPG as we should be able to win enough games, but I don't think anyone should be under any illusions as to how awful we currently are.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"! up 1 down seems a whole lot simpler, either a straight swap or by a "million pound game".
The big issue for next season, if we change to 1 up 1 down, will be that the promoted side could have a very short lived SL existence as they will be favourites for the drop.'"
Any form of Promotion will always have that.
The way it is now we went up last year, finished above 2 other teams and could still be relegated. Leigh were promoted in '16 and didn't finish bottom in '17 and went down. Now that really isn't a fair system.
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