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| It all depends upon the time frame: 20 years? 30 years? 50 years?
20 years: 1. Paul Sculthorpe, 2. Kevin Sinfield.
30 years: 1. Ellery Hanley, 2. Paul Sculthorpe, 3. Kevin Sinfield
50 years: 1. Ellery Hanley, 2. Malcolm Reilly, 3. Paul Sculthorpe, 4. Kevin Sinfield.
Andy Farrell was a star at the club level but never shone in international games. Therefore he could never be considered great, let alone the best.
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| Quote: Grimmy "To be fair, Sinfield was a makeshift scrum half/hooker when we beat them at Huddersfield in 2001 (Long, Deacon, Cunnigham and Netwton were all injured, can't remember whether Briers, Martyn and Lowes were injured or just omitted). I suppose his versatility was therefore useful to us, as it has been throughout his career. He didn't really have a big game or anything though, Sculthorpe (also playing in the halves) was on fire.'"
Thanks for reminding me. I was sat right in front of Peacock when he scored. ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote: Bullseye "Thanks for reminding me. I was sat right in front of Peacock when he scored.
That tour was when I saw my first live international! The second test at Bolton, that is ![DOH icon_biggrin.gifOH:](images/smilies//eusa_doh.gif)
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| Quote: Grimmy "That tour was when I saw my first live international! The second test at Bolton, that is
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| A neutral view;
Sinfield underrated
Farrell overrated
Sculthorpe miles better than both.
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| Had Sinfield been a bit quicker he would have always been a stand off, and he hardly played 13 in his last 5 years, so its a bit of a weird comparison. Sculthorpe really was best suited to 6 as well and no doubt would only have played there if he'd had a bit more pace. I think if either of them was an Aussie they would almost never have played in the forwards.
Of the three the only out-and-out forward was Farrell. I personally thought he played pretty well for GB, and all of them suffered from playing in a particularly bad era for us internationally. IIRC wasn't there at least one game where we picked a whole bunch of players who were loose forwards for their clubs but played across the park for GB?
Whilst my favourite loose forward (or should I say scariest to watch against Leeds) for a while was Knocker Norton, Ellery Hanley would have to be the best by a long way. He's the only British player in my years watching the game (going back to 81) who I would argue should be in a best 13 covering the whole era when including Aussies and Kiwis. He was a standout in a number of positions for GB and his tryscoring was phenomenal (whilst not an orthodox stand off 1984-85 he was incredible for Bradford). I don't think you can make a strong case for any other British player over the same era.
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