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Quote: Gallanteer "The thing is, a true fan of a club will not change his allegiance. For example if Hull and Rovers formed a superclub, some fans might attend, the otgers would wait for their club to be reformed in the liwrt leagues or just quit the sport. I'm sure that's the same fir Salford fans as well. The new superclub woukd then nred to attract mainly new fans and that is a massive gamble. Fans of a club msy watch neuteal games, but if their team didn't exist they would drift away.

It always seems to be Leeds, Wigan or Warrington fans that are all for it. Yet suggest that Wakey, Cas, Leeds and Bradford all merge into a West Yorks club playing at Elland road and they simply say there's no need. It's very easy to have big opinions if your club is financially safe. One day they might not be.

Abandoing clubs to force new superclubs into existance is not the answer. People won't support them and it'll be a financial disaster. That is almost as guilty as the Keigh charman throwing money in an all or nothing approach that needs immediate results. The only way to grow is to KEEP what you've got, generate interest in the game and then people will WANT to join. For all the moaning at Toronto, that's what they've done and done well so far. Will it last? Maybe.

Back on topic......

SL is going to 14 teams next year anyway. The only people that seem not to see
this is the RFL itself. I don't care what has officially been said so far, all the signs are clear to see.

Of course, I've been wrong before.'"

It would be a big gamble if Salford etc had a lot of fans to lose. They don't. Even if 80% of them walked away, I'd argue that a brand new heartlands club in a big city could still reasonably expect to attract better crowds and sponsorship than what Salford get, as well as more away fans if the ground was more conveniently situated (as Manchester Regional Arena is, for example). It's easy for me to say, but if Wigan had 3k crowds every week and were in dire straights, I'd still support them if they moved to Manchester to make it work (not Liverpool though *spits*)

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Quote: Fax and furious "Just go with 12 in Super League. If it went to 14 teams then each existing SL club would have to give up about £1/4 million of central funding. Not worth it just for two extra home games.

No, stick with 12 clubs top five play-off for the Old Trafford Grand Final - BUT WITH ALL THE TOP FIVE PLAY-OFF MATCHES (except the Final of course!) BEING DECIDED ON THE AGGREGATE SCORE OF TWO-LEGGED, HOME AND AWAY MATCHES.'"


The old top 5 format was the best play off series that we've had and did, quite rightly, favour those sides finishing in 1st & 2nd (until Leeds trashed the party).
This will mean that the remaining 5 (or more if we increase the numbers) wont have any further games but, this was a better system which, quite rightly, put the emphasis on the run in to the grand final.
One major issue with this would be fewer games for Sky, which could be a huge stumbling block.
Maybe all the sides that dont qualify for the play offs could have a new end of season cup competition, which would give them something to play for and give sky some additional matches to fill our screens.

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Quote: dboy "You need "loop" fixtures, because without them, you have 11 home games and 23 in total.

That does not give a sustainable income stream.'"

That’s why we should have 14 teams in Super League

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "That’s why we should have 14 teams in Super League'"


Which requires the acceptance of Sky, as their current contract specifies the league set-up, and this can't/won't happen before 2022 (next contract).

I too would like a 14 team SL, but the bigger division then needs 2up, 2 down = bottom down, top up, "MPG" between next to bottom and 2nd.

That would be fun.

For 11th upwards, that's still only 27 fixtures...a minimum of 3 more needed to sustain income.

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Everybody hates repeat fixtures, except repeat fixtures against the bigger/better/more famous* clubs attract more fans than the first fixture against the smaller/worse/unattractive* clubs.


Change the structure again, why? It makes no difference if the clubs are poorly run and keep losing fans/revenue/good players* and there is no central funding/structure to get out into communities and get kids/more people playing the game in the long term and no plan to expand the international game, the only product that we could sell to a bigger/broader/richer audience in the short term.

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14 Club SL, no auto promotion/relegation. Strictly down to criteria - finances, personnel, stadium, marketing plan, 5 years business plan etc. If clubs fail in these areas then no membership of SL end of! Too many lazy, poorly managed clubs in SL who lack true professionalism off the park!!

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