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| As other posters have said. It really shouldn't be an issue with regards SL.
However, if Toronto aren't promoted, and stay in the championship. Then it does become an issue.
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| Quote kobashi="kobashi"
Any club who cannot afford a single trip to Toronto shouldn't be in super league quite frankly.
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Yet historically clubs have never had to fund flying 20+ staff to another continent with accommodation for a few days. Why should they be able to afford such a significant expense?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was on the understanding (that at least a few years ago and maybe even now) the RFL funded British clubs' flights to Catalans.
I have no objection to clubs setting up in other countries. What I do object to is the loss of a domestic league. If we want an international competition (do we) then make a Champions League style competition or expand the World Club Challenge. Don't deny me and other genuine fans the opportunity to see their team home and away. We have enough problems with non-televised matches being on Fridays which are almost impossible to get to due to the unpredictable M62/other roads (not just the M62 corridor) and time off work.
As for people quoting football fans travelling around Europe, money and attendance wise that is a very different league to RL. The European matches are televised and clubs have 30/40,000 plus regular attendances as opposed to our big clubs getting around 10k.
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| I see Toronto are up in arms because they can not play 3 games on the trot in England they have to play 1 home 1 away like every body else they are blaming the super league teams from trying to stop them getting promoted
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| Quote wildshot="wildshot"Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was on the understanding (that at least a few years ago and maybe even now) the RFL funded British clubs' flights to Catalans.'"
That has never been the case for SL clubs.
The RFL did have a "pool" where SL clubs paid an equal amount to cover the costs of traveling to France, meaning that it was fairer for those clubs that either played in France twice, or for clubs who had to travel during expensive travel periods (school holidays for example), but the RFL have never funded travel for SL clubs (and rightly so).
I don't think that pool exists anymore - too many clubs opted out to make their own arrangements (I know that Leeds historically charters its own plane and sells it as a "corporate trip" to cover the cost of flying the players out).
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| Historically clubs have never received the money they do now from TV or have the opportunity they have to gain significant sponsorship.
If a Superleague club cannot afford to fund 1 trip to Toronto then they shouldn’t be in Superleague.
Catalan have to travel away multiple times in a season and pay the costs so no other club can moan about paying for 1 trip to Toronto
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| Quote puroresu_boy="puroresu_boy"If a Superleague club cannot afford to fund 1 trip to Toronto then they shouldn’t be in Superleague.'"
This x10!
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| Quote Call Me God="Call Me God"The majority of threads on the front page of the VT are those started by fans of Wakey or Leigh or other smaller clubs bemoaning expansion, be that because of the red herring that is away fans not traveling or travelling to Toronto being an expense. Leigh look like they have gone boom or bust, wakefield are living hand to moth, Salford and Widnes are on the brink and I'm the bad guy?
I don't trust Toronto, but the arguments being used to "dis' them just hold no water, but what fans of clubs lie wakey will never admit is that without their annual £1,800,000 hand out, they'd be dead an buried and that's why they are scared of Toronto, not because they'd miss out on £10 of away fan ticket revenue'"
Even if it wasn't intentional, there's something quite poetic about that imagery.
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| Quote dboy="dboy"i
I don’t know why you would post that. It’s an idiotic statement.
It’s worth your of discussion because, if he’s correct, I’m sure lots of chairmen will be concerned.
I would guess that he’s not right and that if he is, a new deal will be done.'"
Maybe a new package deal, a raft or dingy & a couple of oars with an all odd cons mud hut for accommodation on arrival, must travel on a Thursday though & row back to Scotland day after match !
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| Quote Call Me God="Call Me God"Then he should gather up his toys and f**k off and play elsewhere, freeing up £1,800,000 of perpetually wasted central funding that is spent each year on survival rather than growth!
The reality is that whether Toronto are good for the game or not, they are at least giving it a go and apparently doing it with a smile on their faces......meanwhile we are inundated with threads bemoaning expansion, generally started by fans of tin pot pit village clubs, teetering on the financial brink and watched by an ageing and shrinking fan base.'"
Shall we replace Woeful Wakefield *sarcasm Trin fans* with say your preferred London village maybe ?
That will be the perennial revolving corner shop of changing name & venue Fulham, Harlequins, Broncos & all other names used replete with your nomadic hoardes numbering around 400 !
Funny how you rarely mention London Nomads/Fulham/Quins isn't it, or maybe not as it doesn't fit your heartlands bashing agenda.
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| Quote Call Me God="Call Me God"The majority of threads on the front page of the VT are those started by fans of Wakey or Leigh or other smaller clubs bemoaning expansion, be that because of the red herring that is away fans not traveling or travelling to Toronto being an expense. Leigh look like they have gone boom or bust, wakefield are living hand to moth, Salford and Widnes are on the brink and I'm the bad guy?
I don't trust Toronto, but the arguments being used to "dis' them just hold no water, but what fans of clubs lie wakey will never admit is that without their annual £1,800,000 hand out, they'd be dead an buried and that's why they are scared of Toronto, not because they'd miss out on £10 of away fan ticket revenue'"
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| Quote Call Me God="Call Me God"
I don't trust Toronto, but the arguments being used to "dis' them just hold no water, but what fans of clubs lie wakey will never admit is that without their annual £1,800,000 hand out, they'd be dead an buried and that's why they are scared of Toronto, not because they'd miss out on £10 of away fan ticket revenue'"
So ,it's ok for you to say "I dont trust Toronto" because your an all knowing former Union fan but, those who support smaller clubs cant have an opinion ??
One thing that folk who live in former pit villages do is to tell it as it is and not just fall in line because some arrogant t**t tells them to.
Having been to Toronto before (although not for RL), I'm looking forward to going back there but, I still dont believe they fit into "our" league and as for being dead and buried without Sky's hand out, so would the vast majority of SL clubs and premier league football clubs so this is just a nonsense statement.
You could enlighten us as to why you dont trust Toronto though, it may be interesting ??
Having said that, your opinion as a supporter of a Championship Club, counts even less than that of a resident of a former pit villiage (technically Wakefield is a city) but, we'll forgive you that as you probably dont make it too far past Watford.
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