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P and R works in football because the teams at the top of the Championship are pretty much as good as those at the bottom of the Premiership. The same generally cannot be said of Rugby League. I would not mind having an expanded top division that would be P and R free for a couple of years to allow new candidate teams to bed in or even for some teams to have a licence that protects them for a certain time. I know that it would lead to a lot of dead rubbers but so does any simple P and R system.
Personally I like the 3x8 system although I know that it is not popular. More of the games have value although it ultimately makes promotion more difficult. I also agree that we devalue individual games by clubs playing each other so often. Perhaps we need to know how many teams could realistically survive at Super League level and go from there. It seems a shame to have teams with Super League costs playing a division down and living on the edge like Leigh.

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Quote: RLRealist "Drop the whole 'Super League' branding as well. It's dated and irrelevant as phook.'"


Maybe rename it Premier League. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Muggins "Maybe rename it Premier League.
Rugby League sounds good. That could work.

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Quote: RLRealist "RL needs to pull completely away from the influence of soccer. Even the old RFL logo was similar to the EFL logo ffs.

RL should align with the NRL. They know how to make a general success of the sport. Drop the whole 'Super League' branding as well. It's dated and irrelevant as phook.'"

I agree RL should copy the NRL. They have the right structure in place in my opinion.

I don’t think we should move away from soccer though, I think we should move toward it. I think we have more in common with soccer than Union for instance and should target football fans in specific areas. If we were doing a rebrand of clubs I’d tie some in with local football teams. Even see if some football clubs want to take over the RL club and run it jointly alongside the football.

Where we should follow Union’s lead is with internationals. They’ve nailed it.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "I disagree with you there.
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1 up 1 down again seems blindingly obvious and if we have to have the theatre of the MPG then, so be it but, it really isnt necessary.'"

All fair points but the problem always remains that in RL the team going up is always the most likely team to go back down because they do not have enough time to prepare sucessfully and unlike in football, where there is enough money to protect the relegated team from the cost of their promotion run, the relegated RL team will always suffer. The perfect solution would be to have a vibrant Championship where the wealth of the two leagues is not so different that it does not matter. Until that happens we just recycle the same players who get relegated every year.

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Quote: Levrier "All fair points but the problem always remains that in RL the team going up is always the most likely team to go back down because they do not have enough time to prepare sucessfully and unlike in football, where there is enough money to protect the relegated team from the cost of their promotion run, the relegated RL team will always suffer. The perfect solution would be to have a vibrant Championship where the wealth of the two leagues is not so different that it does not matter. Until that happens we just recycle the same players who get relegated every year.'"


Yes, pretty much as it is in the round ball game.
Unless you are going to exempt any promoted side from relegation the following season, this will always be the cas, unless there war parity in income/spending power between SL and the promoted club.
As the saying goes, you cant have everything and at least any promoted side gets their shot at "the big time".

Also, with one up one down, at least any promoted side would avoid the nonsense that we have now (the qualifiers), where half a dozen clubs fron SL and the Championship will perpetually struggle to build and strengthen their side.
How many decent players would want to go to a side that would be in jeopardy at the end of the season and if they do, just how much will they want to be paid, in relation to going to a "safe" club, which gives the top 6 a massive advantage both in terms of recruitment and salary cap spend.
They will still want more to play for a Widnes or Wakefield, compared to Wigan or Saints but, again, that's life.

Having said that, the current system does prevent as many dead rubbers as there are under the 1 up/ 1 down system and for the neutral, the middle 8's is probably more compelling viewing than the race for a top 4 spot, especially this season when the current top 4 are almost certain to be the semi finalists.

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