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Quote: Gallanteer "Very surprising stance.

Ultimately SL could form a breakaway league and change to either drop existing clubs or invite others to join for a bigger league. There would be no promotion and relegation and no franchise needed as no other clubs will get an option to join. A true closed shop. The risk to that is maintaining sponsorship the majority of that being Sky. If Sky transfer their deal to the breakaway league then the SL gets its way anyway and the rest of the RFL will be left in complete poverty. Would anyone truly think Sky wouldn't do that? Legal issues you say? They could claim RFL has broken the contract by not providing access to SL games.

Is it not best to agree the scrapping of the 8s and have straight promotion and relegation and at least have a chance with a small amount of Sky income?

For all his bravado, Rimmer and the RFL have no real option. If the only real options are no promotion and relegation and no money versus a slight chance of promotion and a small amount of money, there is only one real answer for clubs outside the SL.

As a supporter of a club in danger of relegation and things might go pear shaped, the 1 up 1 down option is the ONLY option out of the two.

Of course this belies one crucial element. The intensity and passion in the m8s generated by the need for survival, arguably creates better games than those in the s8s, especially this season with Saints being on fire. Jeopardy creates more controversy and conversation.

Ultimately there will be no civil war. Love it or hate it, SL holds all the cards and Rimmer knows it.'"


Any 'breakaway' would require SL to set up their own administration etc, all the bread and butter stuff that they clearly don't want to do.

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The ' Super Rugby ' option requires as has been suggested , a massive up front investment , probably 3/4 times what SKY currently offer per season
It also requires 2 separate seasons

So it isn't going to happen

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Quote: Trainman "I’m no expert on business and the structure of organisations and companies but it seems to me that the businessmen want to get greater control to maximise the revenue streams for SL which in turn would increase the revenue streams for the rest of the sport.

I struggle to see how this is a bad thing.'"
There are very few businessmen whose competencies can be spread across massively different industries. An oil trader (taking a non-random example) owning a rugby league club might meet the definition of "successful businessman" but does he know about the business of getting fans through the gates? No.

This is demonstrated in the performance of clubs whose "businessmen" owners have injected themselves into the running of the clubs - Wigan most notably.

The best people to run RL clubs are professional RL or sports administrators, and they don't grow on trees. The most succesful model is the investor sitting behind and letting the administrator come in and run the business (e.g. Leeds) or the investor actually being a sports administrator (e.g. Hull). But some investors just can't help but think they know best and I'm struggling to think of an SL example where it has worked out particularly well in terms of revenue or attendance growth. And then they displace the blame onto the RFL because...

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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "There are very few businessmen whose competencies can be spread across massively different industries. An oil trader (taking a non-random example) owning a rugby league club might meet the definition of "successful businessman" but does he know about the business of getting fans through the gates? No.

This is demonstrated in the performance of clubs whose "businessmen" owners have injected themselves into the running of the clubs - Wigan most notably.

The best people to run RL clubs are professional RL or sports administrators, and they don't grow on trees. The most succesful model is the investor sitting behind and letting the administrator come in and run the business (e.g. Leeds) or the investor actually being a sports administrator (e.g. Hull). But some investors just can't help but think they know best and I'm struggling to think of an SL example where it has worked out particularly well in terms of revenue or attendance growth. And then they displace the blame onto the RFL because...'"


Isn’t that what Elstone is?

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Quote: Trainman "Isn’t that what Elstone is?'"
It is, but in many ways much more direct impact can be made at the club level rather than at head office. If only more of them were properly run by proper sports administrators rather than by local businessmen done good but in entirely different industries.

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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "There are very few businessmen whose competencies can be spread across massively different industries. An oil trader (taking a non-random example) owning a rugby league club might meet the definition of "successful businessman" but does he know about the business of getting fans through the gates? No.

This is demonstrated in the performance of clubs whose "businessmen" owners have injected themselves into the running of the clubs - Wigan most notably.

The best people to run RL clubs are professional RL or sports administrators, and they don't grow on trees. The most succesful model is the investor sitting behind and letting the administrator come in and run the business (e.g. Leeds) or the investor actually being a sports administrator (e.g. Hull). But some investors just can't help but think they know best and I'm struggling to think of an SL example where it has worked out particularly well in terms of revenue or attendance growth. And then they displace the blame onto the RFL because...'"


Spot on mate. If only more people could grasp this concept, especially those involved with the game's leadership.

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