As a Hull fan I get annoyed with all the derbies these days. We play a pre-season friendly against them then we play them 3 times in the league before super 8s where we could play them again then either the top 4 play-off or grand final and a challenge cup game. That is a potential for 7 derbies in 1 year which I think takes away from the 'magic' of derby day.

I am not against magic weekend at all, I have been a couple of times and I love it, great party atmosphere, mixing with other fans, having a couple of drinks but I would much prefer it if the games were random rather than manufactured, actually do a draw for the games or something. To be fair though I would rather be playing KR this year than Saints given what happened last year...

Do you actually disagree with the notion that it's the clubs and not the RFL that need to take their proportion of the blame, or does it not just suit the preconceived notions held by you and others on this forum?

I've got plenty of experience getting people to attend events for a living - that's where my opinions and observations come from and it's why I don't fall for the "blame the RFL and get Eddie Hearn" nonsense. I've even discussed marketing strategies with two clubs in this sport so I've seen first hand what they're doing well and what they're not doing well. I'm guessing that gives me a slightly better insight than you and your pet seal Cokey?

Anyway, it's clear we're not going to agree so let's leave it there, eh? I can accept that I don't have it right all of the time but at the same time, this forum used to be a place where your ideas were challenged with reasoned counter-arguments, rather than childish retorts. It's a shame that one has to go to TotalRL for that sort of discussion now.

Put your dummy back in soft @r$3, Mr (know it all ) marketing freak.

Thanks,but try coming out of the tunnel.