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| Sorry Bramley but, we're mixing messages there.
RL at the top level should be promoted based on it's speed, skill, contact, aggression and athleticism and there are plenty of advertising agencies that could put a decent promotional video together to make people sit up and take notice but, "we" just dont do this.
I'll gamble that Perez over in Toronto could find someone to do a great job but, for whatever reason, our sport just doesn't bother. The SL advert a couple of seasons ago, featuring Jonny Vegas, whilst slightly humorous, was embarrassing and it yet again "dumbed down" the sport and we should be doing the opposite.
Union has a higher profile and will draw more youngsters in on the back of this but, the drip feeding of contact seems to be designed so as to not scare the kids away, rather than reduce contact apart form the work on line outs, which only become truly competitive as the kids get to 15/16, with no lifting before this age.
Maybe something should be done to put more emphasis on skills, rather than power but this directive needs to come from "above", it cant be done by individual clubs.
As I said earlier, the shortage of "conscripts" has little to do with the game itself and is far more to do with modern society, which is far happier sticking their kids in front of a tv or tablet, than going to the trouble of taking little Johnny to the local sports club twice a week and then matchday at the weekend and this seems unlikely to change any time soon.
The negative stuff that you mention again, is again partly due to the lack of positive stuff that the RL "media machine" comes up with.
Certainly I dont think the risks in RL are any higher than Union, where the greatest risk of serious injury is in the scrum, something that is minimal in League.
Both codes will have their fair share of muscular, ligament and break's.
All sport should be sold on the social aspects, playing in a team, meeting people, fitness, etc, etc
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| Quote: Seth "Tag/touch should replace contact up til u10 at least. Big kids coach will have to learn to teach him to pass. Get away from him celebrating that his team has half a dozen players physically 2 years older than the opposition and that's why they're winning 50 0 every week. Gets to u14s then starts to wonder why they're losing.
If you're that coach reading this, please stop it.'"
It should be a mix of both.
Tag/Tough massively improve passing and evasion skills and improve speed in all aspects of the game.
Regarding contact, it's a difficult one.
All RL players need to be able to tackle and players need to enjoy the contact side of the game.
However, when junior teams have a "beast" (early developer), the can become the focus of all the attacking play and these guys are difficult for the smaller players to deal with.
Although it would weaken the year that the should be playing in, maybe these players should be "moved up" a year and tested against players that are better equipped to deal with them. Maybe put a size limit on age group games (this will never happen but, you know where I'm coming from).
In cricket, which is a totally different sport with different physical needs, young players are advanced based on ability and it has little to do with age group.
Junior players, regularly play senior cricket, when they are ready nad apart from embarrassing a few adults and probably introducing them to the "social" side of things a little early, it works very well.
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| Quote: bramleyrhino "
But oh, what's this? The rlWakefield Trinity Official YouTube channelrl hasn't been updated in seven months. SEVEN months, and not a single piece of content on one of the biggest media channels in the world, and one where supposedly our next generation of supporters and players are hanging out because they just spend their life on tablets and smartphones.
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You need to keep up.
Since the introduction of Trinity TV (around 7 months ago) you have to subscribe to see the Trinity games and other media stuff so, the you tube channel is redundant and the Trinity fans have far more to keep themselves entertained on cold winter nights.
Perhaps they should do both but, clearly, they are wanting to steer people towards their subscription service.
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1506.jpg [quote:18jc6kzm]I wish everyone would read bramleyrhino's post two or three times just to get it through some thick skulls[/quote:18jc6kzm]
[quote:18jc6kzm]Mr bramleyrhino speaks a lot of sense.[/quote:18jc6kzm]
[quote="Jamie Jones-Buchanan":18jc6kzm]"I'd never forgive myself if a child of mine was born in Lancashire.[/quote:18jc6kzm]:1506.jpg |
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "You need to keep up.
Since the introduction of Trinity TV (around 7 months ago) you have to subscribe to see the Trinity games and other media stuff so, the you tube channel is redundant and the Trinity fans have far more to keep themselves entertained on cold winter nights.
In which case, fair play to them. But to answer your question, yes, I'd say they do need to do both. If this is where we think a key audience is, there needs to be content in that audience. A subscription model is great for monetising and capturing an audience that you already have, but what about the audience you don't have?
And if it is the case that video content has moved elsewhere, perhaps there should be something on the world's biggest video platform explaining that. It'd be better than the first search result for "Wakefield Trinity" being a press conference with Chris Chester.
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| Quote: bramleyrhino "In which case, fair play to them. But to answer your question, yes, I'd say they do need to do both. If this is where we think a key audience is, there needs to be content in that audience. A subscription model is great for monetising and capturing an audience that you already have, but what about the audience you don't have?
And if it is the case that video content has moved elsewhere, perhaps there should be something on the world's biggest video platform explaining that. It'd be better than the first search result for "Wakefield Trinity" being a press conference with Chris Chester.'"
Have you considered that Trinity may have better marketing people than you and maybe, just maybe, they have this one about right.
Having launched a subscription TV channel, it may not be in their interests to put all of their content on a zero revenue you tube site.
Once they have a decent number of subscriptions, then it may be wise to do both but, right now, they need to channel everyone towards TRinity TV, maybe you should try it, instead of yet more cheap shots at Trinity.
This thread is not about Wakefield anyway but, YOU chose to take a pot shot.
Back on topic though, Trinity will have plenty of sparkle this season and at least in some parts of the RL world the game is on the up
Increased crowds (albeit from a very low starting point, improved stability on and off the field, some of the most exciting youngsters coming through and improved league standing.
Plenty still to do but, definitely going in the right direction.
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1506.jpg [quote:18jc6kzm]I wish everyone would read bramleyrhino's post two or three times just to get it through some thick skulls[/quote:18jc6kzm]
[quote:18jc6kzm]Mr bramleyrhino speaks a lot of sense.[/quote:18jc6kzm]
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Have you considered that Trinity may have better marketing people than you and maybe, just maybe, they have this one about right.
Having launched a subscription TV channel, it may not be in their interests to put all of their content on a zero revenue you tube site. Once they have a decent number of subscriptions, then it may be wise to do both but, right now, they need to channel everyone towards TRinity TV, maybe you should try it, instead of yet more cheap shots at Trinity.
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I've got no idea who is running the marketing at Wakefield. I've made some observations, and that's that. If Wakefield are making a success of their subscription service, then all power to them. My suggestion is about reaching and engaging new audiences - something which you said was difficult in the YouTube / tablet era, and I've highlighted one way in which this could be tackled. If the intention of Wakefiled at this present time isn't about new audiences but instead, monetising the ones they have, then that's their decision.
Quote: wrencat1873 "This thread is not about Wakefield anyway but, YOU chose to take a pot shot.'"
I'm not taking a cheap pot-shot at Wakefield in the slightest. My argument is that the clubs carry the biggest burden for marketing the sport, and I highlighted the activity of your club as I figured this would be the most relatable. There are examples of bad or lazy marketing at all clubs - including the one I support.
Quote: wrencat1873 "Back on topic though, Trinity will have plenty of sparkle this season and at least in some parts of the RL world the game is on the up
What Trinity have achieved in the last couple of years is impressive. Michael Carter has done a very good job from the state the club was in when he took over, and the team is doing well on the pitch. I only hope that the people of Wakefield support that work in greater numbers (as I'm sure you do). I don't think we'll ever agree on the issue of whether this progress has been aided by the lack of growth in the sport or not, but the world would be pretty boring if we all thought the same, eh?
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