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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Leigh, Toronto’s main rival in the Championship received £500,000 in central funding.'"

No they didn't......but you already know this.
Toronto claimed they had a 5 yr plan for SL.....this was patently a "untruth" as they threw a low lever SL squad together for an assault on the 3rd tier competition. This year they again have a mid table SL squad that I believe will win automatic promotion before the MPG therefore making it to SL in 2 years.....saving 3 years of the imaginary investment which this year has been markedly reduced anyway.
In a notmal season, they could reasonably be expected to play 3 games away at the start, then the remaining 19 regular games, H and Away with maybe a couple of 2 week stays at home to make up fr the late season start......
so A,A,A H,A,H,A,H,H,A,H,A,H,H,BASH,A,H,A,H,A,H,A,H.......so I make that 19 flights for Toronto and another 22 flights for the visiting sides. 40 Flights for 30 people = 1,200.
This year......they fly Home in early May, back to the UK for 2 games then home for the lot.......so 3 flights for 40 or 480 fewer flights for their sponsor to swallow...40% reduction in sponsorship and no worrying connecting flights to pay for for those pesky French from Toulouse....., still no TV deal to speak of and a fixture list weighted in their favour.
As someone who had to constantly defend London from accusations (unfounded) of back-handers and favouritism, I find the sycophantic fawning over a team of mercenaries a little ironic and very worrying for the game in general. If we want Toronto in SL, then just put them there......the cake-walk of last year may well be repeated this year and it'll have achieved nothing of any merit other than to under-prepare Torontos fan base for the absolute hammerings they are going to get in SL.......and rest assured, the SL clubs will not be permitting blocs of games....

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Leigh, Toronto’s main rival in the Championship received £500,000 in central funding.'"


If you are advocating the same funding for any club promoted from League 1, as any club that is relegated from SL, then thats ok but, it does seem a strange way forward.

Someone really should tell the less well informed users of the forum, exactly what we can expect from having a number of N American clubs in SL (or The Championship) will do for the game.
If you can come up with evidence of increased sponsorship, improved TV deals etc and not just items on a wish list, the "experiment" would carry a whole lot more weight.

We have comparisons of population masses, which appear remarkably similar to the old "5 million people in London" argument and yet London have spectacularly failed to attract these mystical numbers and instead rely on "displaced" Northerners to support their side and of course, there arent so many of those in N. America.
A successful club in a big city may have some "pull". However, right now, we are sacrificing some of the domestic game and chasing a dream and even if (and it's a huge IF) "we" end up with 4/5 N. American clubs in SL, will this really improve the competition.
Again, to use the London comparison, it will take 25/30 years to allow any kind of "home" player pool for them but, some folk on here believe that we should obliterate the domestic game in favour of over paying mercenaries to pull on a New York jersey and they also believe this will save our sport.
This goes in one of 2 directions.
Either crash and burn or, hugely successful, in which case, even Wigan and Leeds would be surplus to requirements.

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Super League clubs (last season) agreed that whoever was relegated, the other clubs would contribute 45K each to them, that club just happened to be Leigh Centurions. Championship/League 1 clubs had no say in the matter, I assuming the same applies this season (unless the goal posts have been moved.....again)

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[b:3w2ur1db]Superleague Titles[/b:3w2ur1db] Warrington Wolfs - 0 Wakefield Trinity - 0 Leigh Centurions - 0 [quote="Budgiezilla":3w2ur1db]Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.[/quote:3w2ur1db]:



Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Leigh, Toronto’s main rival in the Championship received £500,000 in central funding.'"


Half a million pound in funding and you get hammered at home by a club who’s only been in existence for 2 weeks with no central funding. Utter embarrassment

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Quote: Lebron James "Half a million pound in funding and you get hammered at home by a club who’s only been in existence for 2 weeks with no central funding. Utter embarrassment

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King James'"


2 weeks??? what a goon.

There were no prizes for the winners. We'll take care of that when it matters.

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Quote: Cokey "2 weeks??? what a goon.

There were no prizes for the winners. We'll take care of that when it matters.

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Hokey Cokey'"

icon_surprised.gifops: About right for Jabrone though.

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