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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "1. It would make no sense for them to play home and away fixtures alternate weeks, Rugby League isn’t rich enough to throw money away like that.

2. Toronto are currently paying other clubs travel costs while receiving no central funding, now that’s not a level playing field and is likely to put off would be investors for the New York side.'"


1. Nobody asked them. Then arrived full of bluster and as such (with the exception of maybe the first 4 weeks for weather) they should be home and away alternate weeks. This isn't "throwing money away" as they have a CONTRA sponsorship deal that PEREZ claimed was possibly the biggest in RL History.....in reality its a logo on a shirt for a few free flights. If they don't want to travel then play in your own Canadian league......but as I have said, they will get 11 weeks of home games where they are fresh and their opponents have traveled for 7 hours (to and from airports included) across multiple time zones and this gives them an unfair advantage. Perez has repeatedly mentioned Hamilton, so why not play those home games impacted there?
2. New York and the PE teacher have apparently buckets of cash to spend. Toronto have thus far turned down 175k in funding.....hardly a deal breaker when they had a squad last year that cost more than the other 11 sides squads combined (salary cap anyone) and have assembled a squad that will see them challenge come the autumn, but they have not delivered a TV deal or one brass farthing of benefit to the game or specifically to Superleague where their future undoubtedly lies.

The Myth that NYC v Toronto will attract a bumper TV deal is farcical. It is a myth that is again based upon the belief that after watching just one game north americans will be hooked......people forget how long it took soccer to get even a small foothold in America and exactly how much money was lost in the process.....I am all for expansion BTW.....as a London Broncos fan I believe that the game has to expand to new regions to ensure its survival, but the "hand up" Toronto are getting based on an imaginary TV deal is not the way to go about it....SL chairmen Like Pearson at Hull are like greedy little kids at the thought of another TV pay day........whilst forgetting they sold their soul to sky a while back for a 300k sweetener.

Lastly, if Canadians are going to be "hooked" then why not start your own competition? I'll tell you why......because next year, Toronto will be getting a cheque for 1.8 million sterling and that's a lot easier than charging 5 bux a ticket to a beer festival with a rugby game on the side!

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Leigh, Toronto’s main rival in the Championship received £500,000 in central funding.'"


If you are advocating the same funding for any club promoted from League 1, as any club that is relegated from SL, then thats ok but, it does seem a strange way forward.

Someone really should tell the less well informed users of the forum, exactly what we can expect from having a number of N American clubs in SL (or The Championship) will do for the game.
If you can come up with evidence of increased sponsorship, improved TV deals etc and not just items on a wish list, the "experiment" would carry a whole lot more weight.

We have comparisons of population masses, which appear remarkably similar to the old "5 million people in London" argument and yet London have spectacularly failed to attract these mystical numbers and instead rely on "displaced" Northerners to support their side and of course, there arent so many of those in N. America.
A successful club in a big city may have some "pull". However, right now, we are sacrificing some of the domestic game and chasing a dream and even if (and it's a huge IF) "we" end up with 4/5 N. American clubs in SL, will this really improve the competition.
Again, to use the London comparison, it will take 25/30 years to allow any kind of "home" player pool for them but, some folk on here believe that we should obliterate the domestic game in favour of over paying mercenaries to pull on a New York jersey and they also believe this will save our sport.
This goes in one of 2 directions.
Either crash and burn or, hugely successful, in which case, even Wigan and Leeds would be surplus to requirements.

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Super League clubs (last season) agreed that whoever was relegated, the other clubs would contribute 45K each to them, that club just happened to be Leigh Centurions. Championship/League 1 clubs had no say in the matter, I assuming the same applies this season (unless the goal posts have been moved.....again)

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[b:3w2ur1db]Superleague Titles[/b:3w2ur1db] Warrington Wolfs - 0 Wakefield Trinity - 0 Leigh Centurions - 0 [quote="Budgiezilla":3w2ur1db]Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.[/quote:3w2ur1db]:



Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Leigh, Toronto’s main rival in the Championship received £500,000 in central funding.'"


Half a million pound in funding and you get hammered at home by a club who’s only been in existence for 2 weeks with no central funding. Utter embarrassment

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Quote: Lebron James "Half a million pound in funding and you get hammered at home by a club who’s only been in existence for 2 weeks with no central funding. Utter embarrassment

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King James'"


2 weeks??? what a goon.

There were no prizes for the winners. We'll take care of that when it matters.

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Quote: Cokey "2 weeks??? what a goon.

There were no prizes for the winners. We'll take care of that when it matters.

Regards

Hokey Cokey'"

icon_surprised.gifops: About right for Jabrone though.

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