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Quote: FlexWheeler "Don't selectively quote stuff. Graham listed all the different types of atmosphere he's played in, including hostile ones, and then said this wasn't like any of them. '"
I simply quoted Grahams thougts...nothing "selective" at all as I posted the other players thoughts earlier.

Quote: FlexWheeler "There's a video on England's Twitter feed ofsam Burgess partying with tongan fans. Keep living in your dream world.'"

Indeed. Big Sam was partying with the ever so friendly Tongans AFTER the game....but as someone who was there, I can assure you that the atmosphere and feelings towards England during the game where not at all "friendly"....

Quote: FlexWheeler "Don't know why you are driving this point so much. '"

I am just poiting out that after you claimed England players would have experienced more pressurised situations, they almost folded in that last 10 minutes......

Quote: FlexWheeler "If you continue you're going the same way as downo and getting ignored. Good riddance to bad rubbish.'"

I have no idea what you're on about here......if you think threatening me that you won't read or will ignore my posts because you disagree with them then you have a lotto learn about the purpose of a forum.

Quote: FlexWheeler "Appears the tongan fans have taken our whingeing poms mantle as the chief whingers in defeat. '"

The level of passion shown by those fans makes their "knee-jerk" reaction understandable....and nobody whinges as well as the British!

Quote: FlexWheeler "Clear knock on '"
Not really.......it's still open to debate as the similar infringement a minute earlier was let slide but this one wasn't......or more importantly when it comes to big calls, wasn't referred upstairs. The subsequent "full backing" given to the ref makes it nearly impossible for anyone else to get the final because if he doesn't, it will further fan the flames of conspiracy.

Quote: FlexWheeler "clueless morons.'"
One of the reasons I like RL is the welcoming fans that helped me get to grips when I first started watching, but it seems that nowadays it is the norm to "name call" someone with whom you disagree.
These "clueless morons" packed Mt Smart for the first time in over 2 decades and have been a real positive in this otherwise entirely predictable and largely ignored World Cup. Tongan games at this comp represent 18% of the tournament yet they have delivered 27% of the gates thus far.....Australia over 5 HOME games have delivered 1,200 more fans.....but yeah, because you disagree with their sentiment, call them a name...sure fire way to win a debate d040.gif

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Quote: Call Me God "Indeed.....except where I was sat there wasn't much hymn singing going on during the game and regardless of when England decided to fold, they did fold for the last 10 minutes or so.....the occasion got to them and the crowd were part of the occasion!'"


Or they thought the job was done with 8 mins left and started to mentally clock off.

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I opened the Times this morning expecting a decent write up.

Just 3 short paragraphs side snippets. Loads about union and cricket.

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To be fair we'd lost Hodgson and Lockers, so it's hardly a surprise the players were blowing at the end. The bias from some of the media in the Sth hemisphere is ridiculous, especially in the Australian TV coverage. Kimmorley et al are a joke.

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Quote: Call Me God "England folded under pressure....they had to defend gallantly for 70+ minutes because they were under pressure from the Tongans side and the partisan crowd...if you don't understand that, then you've never payed sport at a high level!'"


with 7mins to go and 20-0 up there wasnt any pressure!!

maybe clocked off/got tired/great tongan last effort/miracle after that but left themselves too much to do in the end.

England are battered, bruised and exhausted now.. will give it a good go for the first 30mins next week then it will all take its toll and aussies will run loose i think

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Quote: Call Me God "England prop James Grahamsome hostile atmospheres and some great crowds - the first game back at the new Wembley and all that - but never anything like this before.
The Tongans were cheering the Tongans.......I didn't see one Tongan fan cheer the English and I was there......!

It's all kicked off in Auckland now with the Tongan community taking to the streets en-masse to protest being robbed by the referee...Lead story on news bulletins here 4.09130859375:5
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