76030_1540929970.jpgJESUS WEPT HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.
There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg
Quote: BrisbaneRhino "I think people are overestimating PNG. They've looked good playing in stifling heat and humidity in front of their own fans, but Wales and the US were awful. Ireland, which is basically half a mid-table SL side plus Championship players stood up to them and only just lost in that same environment.
Ireland deserve a bit of credit BTW, they are the only one of the northern hemisphere teams to play above expectations. Wales and Scotland have been largely embarrassingly bad.'"
I'd counter that and say PNG are miles ahead of where they were 4 years ago and will be a top 6 side again in 2021 in the cold....they will tire against England and lose, but they are far better than last time out
Quote: Call Me God "Indeed.....except where I was sat there wasn't much hymn singing going on during the game and regardless of when England decided to fold, they did fold for the last 10 minutes or so.....the occasion got to them and the crowd were part of the occasion!'"
Or they thought the job was done with 8 mins left and started to mentally clock off.
To be fair we'd lost Hodgson and Lockers, so it's hardly a surprise the players were blowing at the end. The bias from some of the media in the Sth hemisphere is ridiculous, especially in the Australian TV coverage. Kimmorley et al are a joke.
Quote: Call Me God "England folded under pressure....they had to defend gallantly for 70+ minutes because they were under pressure from the Tongans side and the partisan crowd...if you don't understand that, then you've never payed sport at a high level!'"
with 7mins to go and 20-0 up there wasnt any pressure!!
maybe clocked off/got tired/great tongan last effort/miracle after that but left themselves too much to do in the end.
England are battered, bruised and exhausted now.. will give it a good go for the first 30mins next week then it will all take its toll and aussies will run loose i think
Quote: Call Me God "England prop James Grahamsome hostile atmospheres and some great crowds - the first game back at the new Wembley and all that - but never anything like this before.
The Tongans were cheering the Tongans.......I didn't see one Tongan fan cheer the English and I was there......!
It's all kicked off in Auckland now with the Tongan community taking to the streets en-masse to protest being robbed by the referee...Lead story on news bulletins here
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HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.
There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. 
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