Can't bloody wait for this.

I think Australia will win if Starc & Cummings bowl well

Okay Wayne Bennet knows all. Let's shut down RLFans and any other RL forum that dares to discuss rugby league.

If the depth of the discussion is to "try something different, throw the ball around" then yeah, shut down rl fans.

A controlled offload game might be a good idea. Sadly most of the time England try that sort of game we just end up coughing the ball up in bad positions due to trying to force it too often. Given our error rate is generally too high anyway, that just adds to our problems. One of the key things we need to do is react much faster as a team to things such as turnovers. In Origin and for Australia as soon as the ball hits the deck the whole team is lightning fast to realign in attack or defence. That is a big difference - it means the Aussie defence is already set when we pick up a loose ball and look to move it around, but when the Aussies get it they are often facing a defence in complete disarray.

We need to play a smart game were we do not push the ball, were we simply play straight sets of 6 and set our defenses.

Once we are on top of our defence we can let our backs take over, that might not be in this game, but maybe in the next game, but whatever happened, this is not a CUP match and the tournement doesn't end if England lose, this is were we set our platform.

The only way we are going to beat them is by trying something different. Start with a spot of Morris dancing rather than the national anthem.

We've tried chucking the ball about before. We end up running around like headless chickens, panicking and coughing up possession. As long as we're still in the game around the 60min mark, we've a chance of winning it. Just need to be mentally strong as well as physically.

So you think we should match Australia's style against a bunch of players who are better at playing that way?

Is the aim to win or to post a respectable scoreline? Because in the last 10 years we have consistently matched up and been beaten by close scorelines, in the 10 years before that we were more adventurous and got hammered sometimes but also won sometimes, I know which I prefer.

100% This for me.

looking forward to the game, despite lack of promotion of it in this country, but not surprised

making the final is a must for england this time round otherwise we havent progressed from the macnamara era