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| Quote puroresu_boy="puroresu_boy"He deserves 2 years. If you want to be stupid and take cocaine in season you deserve a 2 year ban.
Yes it ain't steroids but there needs to be a deterrent to stop players doing stuff like this.
Losing 2 years of a short career seems like a good strong deterrent to me and very much in favour.'"
Why the arbitrary 2 years?
There's nothing inherently wrong with taking recreational drugs. Sports star or not. Alcohol is drug. Should we ban players for 2 years for that? What's the fundamental difference between alcohol and cocaine or weed? Just because in this particular country, at this particular time, alcohol is a legal drug and the others aren't.
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| Quote Slugger McBatt="Slugger McBatt"I know what you mean because no one would want any ill to fall on the lad, but this isn't a case of, "silly me, I've only gone and had a line and now I've got a police caution." This is, "If I snort this, I will lose everything I've built, my income, my self-respect, my standing in the sport, and cost a club that has put faith and money into me". But he still does it.
There are no helping some people, and he will go down in Cas's history as the man who cost them potentially their only Championship, and for what? A buzz in Pontefract? It beggars belief.'"
It does. If he likes the odd line of peruvian marching powder, you'd think even he would have the brains to wait till the season is over.
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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"This is Zak Hardaker we are talking about - he is probably stupid enough.
The time it takes to pass through the system depends on many factors (how much is taken in the first place, what is used to 'flush' the cocaine etc).
He clarly does have it in his system during the game, as it was detected in a test taken immediately following it!'"
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| If players are still prepared to risk it knowing they could face a 2 year ban, then how many are going to risk it if you start reducing that to just 6 months?
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| Quote Guybrush="Guybrush"We allow them to drink and gamble.
The crazy thing you did makes you seem like you're 6 btw.
Illegal drugs must be bad coz they're illegal. Legal ones are fine though'"
I wouldn't have professional athletes drinking either if it was my choice. The point is that cocaine is illegal. Dunno how anyone can say the RFL should be leainent towards a "bit of sniff". I have read plenty of comments on social media with people arguing a bit of sniff shouldn't carry punishment.
The RFL would be a laughing stock if they didn't issue harsh punishments.
Dunno how anyone can think it's okay for professional athlete to take an illegal drug and get no punishment.
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| There's no debate to be had on whether its a recreational or a PED, its on the WADA list so any pro athlete should know not to take it unless they are prepared for the 2 yr penalty.
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| Quote Guybrush="Guybrush"Why the arbitrary 2 years?
There's nothing inherently wrong with taking recreational drugs. Sports star or not. Alcohol is drug. Should we ban players for 2 years for that? What's the fundamental difference between alcohol and cocaine or weed? Just because in this particular country, at this particular time, alcohol is a legal drug and the others aren't.'"
Pro athletes should not be taking alcohol & certainly not in the system when playing in my view. But if you can see nothing inherently wrong with breaking the law of the land then what's the point of having laws?
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| Quote shinymcshine="shinymcshine"There's no debate to be had on whether its a recreational or a PED, its on the WADA list so any pro athlete should know not to take it unless they are prepared for the 2 yr penalty.'"
It could be debated (not by us) and taken off the list.
I agree he's an idiot for taking a substance which knows will get him a ban if he's caught.
Did Adam Walker and Rangi Chase get 2 years? Can't actually remember what happened with them
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| Quote PrinterThe="PrinterThe"If players are still prepared to risk it knowing they could face a 2 year ban, then how many are going to risk it if you start reducing that to just 6 months?'"
Probably the exact same number. Hard evidence proves that severity of punishment in no way impacts the number of people offending when it comes to drugs.
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| Bottom line is it is on on the list of PED, he tested positive after a game therefore he will likely get the 2 years.
He's going to need support (in a similar way that Wigan supported Hock) through the ban.
It's a great shame, another career of a player who could have gone down as one of the best ruined for the sake of a bit of a high.
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| Quote Guybrush="Guybrush"Why the arbitrary 2 years?
There's nothing inherently wrong with taking recreational drugs. Sports star or not. Alcohol is drug. Should we ban players for 2 years for that? What's the fundamental difference between alcohol and cocaine or weed? Just because in this particular country, at this particular time, alcohol is a legal drug and the others aren't.'"
I agree there isn't and for me, as adults it's each to their own. We in this Country do tend to demonsise some things more than others mainly because the Gov says what's right & wrong.Ateotd Coke and Alcohol wreck lives when someone abuses them and becomes addicted
The fact is though the rules are the rules and everyone signs up knowing them and the consequences. We could have a wider discusion whether drug policy in this Country is becoming a bit outdated, especially where Weed is concerned and the positive affects it can have on people with say Parkinson's, but that would take us way OT.
But as far as the difference between Weed, Alcohol & Coke goes. Coke is a straight up stimulant and as such is on the PED list everywhere. Whereas Alcohol, although has stimulant and sedating effects isn't & I defy anyone to get tanked up or stoned and have a game of RL. They definitely wouldn't be playing to their full potential to say the least.
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