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| Quote: Superted "I don't see anybody defending coke, or saying its not bad - some are more accepting of its use, some are happy to just leave folk to their own devices, and some are dead against it. The bigger point is that unfortunately it's now common place within the rugby league community, and particularly amongst players of both amateur and professional clubs. It's almost as much a part of the social scene as a beer nowadays - for most it goes hand in hand. It's sad, but true...
Someone mentioned a potential link with the apparent increase in heart issues amongst younger blokes in our sport and coke use - whilst I wouldn't necessarily tie it to coke, I have absolutely no doubt that a cocktail of various supplements (illegal and non-illegal), painkillers and recreational drugs are playing havoc with peoples long term health (both physical and mental) in our sport. I've seen first hand different super league players (current and ex) who's lives are an absolute mess because of a mixture of the above - often tied in with gambling problems too.
Coke is relatively cheap, leaves less of a hangover the next day and is becoming 'the norm' - it's easy to understand why it's the go to substance amongst the rugby league player demographic. What's even more ridiculous (and this is a sign of me starting to get old) is me and the couple of non-users at our club are actually ridiculed for being 'do-gooders' by the lads - it's all light hearted, but we're the ones who are seen as 'not being normal', because we're in the minority.'"
I can completely relate to this, it's the same at my amateur club. Coke has become the norm for a large section of our team. As one of the older ones I'm quite happy with a few pints on a Saturday, & their use of coke doesn't adversely effect me or anyone around us from what I've noticed when out (alcohol was generally worse for that).
We also have a few lads who go on courses of steroids from time to time, and judging by some of the red-faced maniacs I come up against, it's the same at other amateur clubs. T5's, copious amounts of energy drinks, painkillers are all knocking around the changing room pre-match.
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| Quote: Superted "That is unfortunately the very real worry - which makes the rest of the conversation irrelevant.
Whether it's genuine mental illness, or just poor life choices, or a mixture of the 2, he's clearly got a self destruct button and a trigger happy finger.
So then it's a question of is/has the game done enough to support him - he's certainly had plenty of opportunities and has had more than his fair share of '2nd, 3rd and 4th chances' at various clubs. We couldn't be sure what other support has been given to deal with whatever issues he has as an individual, but there does come a line where the game are no longer responsible and it's over to him and his friends/family to get things sorted (maybe with the help of the NHS etc).
Fundamentally though, my belief is that if the game was much tougher on some of the contributing factors such as drink, drugs, gambling so that anyone joining the sport at pro-level knows there is zero tolerance (and I mean absolute zero tolerance - not the 'turn a blind eye' zero tolerance we currently have), then we wouldn't have as many guys getting themselves into these issues - granted the individuals may still have the same problems (though I'd like to think some would never escalate down that route), but they'd never have been part of our game, so as harsh as it sounds, they wouldn't be our problem. Culturally, if it's a no go in our sport, we don't need to have this conversation.'"
I don't think zero tolerance towards drink is practical, no one would be able to field a team!
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| Not sorry to print the obvious:
Cocaine is illegal. Full stop.
If it's so widely used and abused as people have posted then , as RL cannot ignore or change legislation, then its use is something we need to challenge.
Comparing it to alcohol has no statistical standing.
What we have ignored is that many younger persons are drawn to illegal activity but Mr C seems to have this to a high level. So how do we prevent our players from dropping into such a sub-set. I do not think the stick is the main answer.
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| Quote: Hillbilly_Red "So how do we prevent our players from dropping into such a sub-set. I do not think the stick is the main answer.'"
I don't think they drop into it - it's where they come from; if we were to adopt a zero tolerance approach to drinking, gambling, recreational drug use and chaotic lifestyles, there wouldn't be enough RL players to go around.
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| More media coverage from our friend Garry Schofield
rlhttps://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/4181256/cocaine-is-a-massive-problem-throughout-rugby-league-says-legend-garry-schofield/rl
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| Quote: casben "More media coverage from our friend Garry Schofield
rlhttps://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/4181256/cocaine-is-a-massive-problem-throughout-rugby-league-says-legend-garry-schofield/rl'"
Pint pot calling the kettle black.
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