I keep seeing and hearing about the arrogant cas fans but I'm not sure when and where they are? For me the majority of us are enjoying this season and enjoying being top after years of mediocre performances (most notably under Millward) If we manage to get to the GF it will be great but if not so be it we try again next year.
As for last night Saints were brilliant defensively and shut everything we did down. I'm not too concerned as yet as it was only our 4th (I think) defeat of the season and we had to lose at home sometime.

Quote number 6="number 6"saints like hull did closed down cas pretty quickly and made them force their play resulting in errors or poor end plays, as the next 6-7 games progress, the teams that contested the grand finals will no doubt up their intensity, seeing as cas have been playing so good for most of the season, can they raise it even more?? be interesting to see in the next few weeks'" Agreed - Saints scrambled very well and the Tigers kicks around their defence was pretty poor on the night. According to Paul McShane a bit of tinkering should do the trick for next weeks visit to Salford :- www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-8687308

Quote number 6="number 6"saints like hull did closed down cas pretty quickly and made them force their play resulting in errors or poor end plays, as the next 6-7 games progress, the teams that contested the grand finals will no doubt up their intensity, seeing as cas have been playing so good for most of the season, can they raise it even more?? be interesting to see in the next few weeks'" Agreed - Saints scrambled very well and the Tigers kicks around their defence was pretty poor on the night. According to Paul McShane a bit of tinkering should do the trick for next weeks visit to Salford :- www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-8687308

Smashing teams for most of the season means nothing when you lose momentum at the wrong time. Doubts will start to creep in, confidence will falter, the big boys coming up on the rail will start to enforce themselves...

Wiarrington 2011 Mk2

The super 8s don't really count as the "business" end for us. It is for every other side as no other side are guaranteed top 4 . We are. Our performances will tail off, we will bash the odd side too. For us the 2 tests are the semis then if we win the final. I am confident (arrogant) we will make old Trafford. I'm not able to make the same statement with regards to the final. Again though, we won't be burntout come the semis time and should have a fair squad to choose from as we can rotate and rest players.

Exactly BCT - no arrogance on this forum anyway. It could be from bookface and ter or the odd workmate or two but I haven't encountered it here.

We are at the top to be shot at from below. Before this season we used to raise the odd eyebrow with a decent shock win here and there but were not seen as a real threat to the so-called big boys. We were seen as a club "making the numbers up" in SL to some extent. I don't know about the jealousy and where that is coming from but I do know that our support (particularly away) is envied by a lot of other clubs chairman hence the "small town" jibes from some bitter supporters.

It could be taken as an underhand compliment that now finally we are been taken seriously as title contenders for the first time in SL.

Saints were well worth their win and I congratulate them - they are red hot at the moment and it will take a greater performance than the one we put on last night to beat them.

As for us (Cas Tigers) we will learn from last night and maybe alter a few things but it is certainly no drama loosing to a very good Saints team as some opposition fans would have us believe on here.

Look on Casforum if you want to see arrogance.

As someone else has said. The super 8s isn't the business end for us. We have already played our most important games barring the play offs. We are gauranteed top 4 and pretty much gauranteed a home play off tie and LLS. It's all about staying fit and putting in decent performances without picking up injuries.

Fans are going on about Hull being the best team etc... But they beat Ur at their place and we beat them at ours. Nothing in it apart from we haven't took beatings like they have this season. Yesterday was our biggest loss this season. 14points.

Until we lose in the play offs nobody can say we have bottled it as we have already done our hard work. It's down to the rest of their teams to fight for the final 3 places.

St Helens are firing on all cylinders under their new coach. And that is happening when they haven't got their star signing, Benjamin Barba, on to the paddock yet! Imagine how good St Helens will be when Barba starts to play.

Expect St Helens to be at Old Trafford in October and to win the silverware.

That's a great way to get yourselves knocked out in the semis. Cas should be aiming to build towards the semis, but you can't just coast through the next few games. Momentum is everything in the play offs. Cas need to be careful, it would be a massive shame if this side didn't win the Grand Final IMO.

I,m hoping the Cas team has the same cockiness that the job is almost done and the Super 8's are not seen as the business end of the season. It's a sure way of losing focus to get to a grand final, resting on your laurels until the play offs is not an indicator of a champion side. Games will intensify now at the business end, hopefully Cas will sit back and relax and let DP worry his grey hairs about the one knock out game.

Didnt Saints win 19 games in a row before the streak got ended against Leeds in a grand final? It really is how you show up on the day. Saints often went into them finals as steady favourites with lots of form and lost to Leeds who were 4/5th .