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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"But it isn't that those players are spread across the 12 clubs. These players simply aren't in SL.
Name me a prop I'm SL right now who is as good as Peacock Fielden or Morley were in 2005? I can't think of one even close and those three played for one side.
Name me a Centre playing now who was in the class of Senior, Lyon or Hape? There's probably only a couple who would compare to Chris McKenna who was Leeds 3rd choice.
Danny McGuire in 2005 was unstoppable. In 2017 he can't run, is Leeds only halfback and we are joint 2nd
And that doesn't even mention the likes of Cunningham, Lauitiiti Graham. Sculthorpe.'"
That's you opinion and I respect it... I just think it's a little tinted by a nostalgic haze...
In my nostalgic opinion there haven't been quality props since players like jimmy Thompson, Trevor Skerrett and Jim Mills ... and Kevin Ward has never been surpassed!
Which says more about the period, in which I first started watching the game...
That said I'm really enjoying Superleague this year as my team is doing well... funny that isn't it?
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| If you think it's tinted by nostalgia fine...ehafs your argument against. Which SL props are in that class?
As for it being about how my team is doing, you couldn't be.more wrong. My team is joint 2nd in the league. They are doing fine. It's not a great team. 2 years ago we won the treble, I don't think the 201t treble winning side were a patch on the 04 side the 05 side or the 08 side.
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| Quote PrinterThe="PrinterThe"I doubt it. Hudds only need to win 2 of 6 to get to 18 and have a much better points difference.
You could pick up a few wins and enter the Middle 8's in decent form though and you know what that competition is all about compared to some of the others so I think you could be fine getting through it.'"
yep that points difference the giants have is like and extra point...
widnes and leigh to come at home too, certainly in the giants hands at the moment a top 8 finish which was the aim for 2017 after finishing bottom last year.
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| Quote Willzay="Willzay"I guess this means then the Crown Jewels such as Williams and Percival must be poop then?'"
Not poop just not as good as the top players 10-15 years ago.
Is Percival better than Jamie Lyon?
Is George Williams better than Adrian Lam?
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| Quote brearley84="brearley84"yep that points difference the giants have is like and extra point...
widnes and leigh to come at home too, certainly in the giants hands at the moment a top 8 finish which was the aim for 2017 after finishing bottom last year.'"
I dont think that the Giants have anything to worry about, they seemed to have turned the corner.
It's going to be a tough ask for KR (or any of the Championship clubs) to compete with the current bottom 4 in SL and the prospect of a French derby plus, some of the other games, the middle 8's again promises to be more enthralling than the top 8, where Cas look nailed on for the LLS.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"I dont think that the Giants have anything to worry about, they seemed to have turned the corner.
It's going to be a tough ask for KR (or any of the Championship clubs) to compete with the current bottom 4 in SL and the prospect of a French derby plus, some of the other games, the middle 8's again promises to be more enthralling than the top 8, where Cas look nailed on for the LLS.'"
Certainly wont be easy but it never will, the inclusion of 2 french sides will make it a lot more interesting as a side that has to go to France twice vs a side that gets them both in the uk will be a big factor.
The middle 8's is always more likely to be the better entertainment due to the points total being scrubbed, from a KR POV I hope one team runs away with it and wins all 7 and that will give us a better opportunity to get up and avoid the MPG (can't see it though)
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| Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"Not poop just not as good as the top players 10-15 years ago.
Is Percival better than Jamie Lyon?
Is George Williams better than Adrian Lam?'"
We had some great centres...King,Lyon,Gleeson,Hape,Senior,McKenna,Gidley,Connelly etc..
We had some great halves.. Long, Briers, Sinfield, Lam, Deacon, Paul brothers, Barrett, Johns, Stacey Jones, Harris, Martyn..i could go on in all positions thats just off the top of my head.
I agree its good that the competition seems to have leveled up, but it has certainly been the big clubs dropping down in standards than a general rise for the usual lower down clubs.the star quality is thin on the ground in comparison to a few years ago and before, it's blatant and you are in denial if you think otherwise imo.
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| Quote Biff Tannen="Biff Tannen"We had some great centres...King,Lyon,Gleeson,Hape,Senior,McKenna,Gidley,Connelly etc..
We had some great halves.. Long, Briers, Sinfield, Lam, Deacon, Paul brothers, Barrett, Johns, Stacey Jones, Harris, Martyn..i could go on in all positions thats just off the top of my head.
I agree its good that the competition seems to have leveled up, but it has certainly been the big clubs dropping down in standards than a general rise for the usual lower down clubs.the star quality is thin on the ground in comparison to a few years ago and before, it's blatant and you are in denial if you think otherwise imo.'"
Thing is this has reared it's head because the big clubs aren't doing so well. When (or if) they get back to where they 'belong', I'm sure we won't hear a peep about player quality.
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| Quote Willzay="Willzay"Thing is this has reared it's head because the big clubs aren't doing so well. When (or if) they get back to where they 'belong', I'm sure we won't hear a peep about player quality.'"
TBH there is an element of truth in it. I've seen a lot of SL games on Sky that aren't much better than what i've seen in the championship this year.
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| Quote LifeLongHKRFan="LifeLongHKRFan"TBH there is an element of truth in it. I've seen a lot of SL games on Sky that aren't much better than what i've seen in the championship this year.'"
Maybe there is, but like I said whose going to be bothered about it when Wigan or Saints are back at the top.
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| Are we pretending that people haven't highlighted a quality issue for the last 3/4years?
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