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| Quote Tigerade="Tigerade"... Same teams every year, same thumpings, not taken seriously be our NRL counterparts.'"
I can't speak for all the NRL clubs, but I do know that's not the case for Melbourne - who, incidentally, have never shirked a WCC following a Grand Final win.
For them it is not about not caring, it's mainly that the game is a week out from the start of the season and ALWAYS entails shipping a squad half way around the world to play in frigid weather when you have been conditioning the guys to start a season at the end of an Aussie summer.
Storm have previously tried to have a couple of their WCC played in Oz to no avail.
Most of the Aussie fans, however, don't give a damn unless their club is involved.
Anyway, I have said for years - since 2000 in fact when storm played St Helens(and beat them 44-6 iirc  ) - that it didn't count unless it was played 2 weeks after the respective Grand Finals with the full Premiership squads. [uThen[/u it'd be a trophy that mattered. |
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| Quote Saxon="Saxon"it didn't count unless it was played 2 weeks after the respective Grand Finals with the full Premiership squads. [uThen[/u it'd be a trophy that mattered.'"
Agree with that - it seems perverse to drag it to the next season and have very different teams playing to those who qualified. |
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| Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"Doesn't seem to be much promotion of these two games, it's as though the journalists don,t know about it.
Are we going to see the great divide again between the two comps.'"
Marketing isn't the RFL's strong point and never has and never will be. |
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| Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"I,ve been calling for another "Uncle Mo" for quite a few years now, some practical visionary who can see beyond Red Hall. The world club series has lost its profile intentions.'"
For all his faults Uncle Mo use to get us column inches, and the game had a higher profile than is does now. |
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| Quote Saxon="Saxon"I can't speak for all the NRL clubs, but I do know that's not the case for Melbourne - who, incidentally, have never shirked a WCC following a Grand Final win.
For them it is not about not caring, it's mainly that the game is a week out from the start of the season and ALWAYS entails shipping a squad half way around the world to play in frigid weather when you have been conditioning the guys to start a season at the end of an Aussie summer.
Storm have previously tried to have a couple of their WCC played in Oz to no avail.
Most of the Aussie fans, however, don't give a damn unless their club is involved.
Anyway, I have said for years - since 2000 in fact when storm played St Helens(and beat them 44-6 iirc
) - that it didn't count unless it was played 2 weeks after the respective Grand Finals with the full Premiership squads. [uThen[/u it'd be a trophy that mattered.'"
Agreed.
There was always the thought that, because of the timing and the game being played in "pre season", that, the Aussie clubs never took the WCC that seriously.
IF thereis to be a showdown between the 2 hemispheres, then it should take place a.s.a.p after the respective Grand Finals.
This would of course impact in the 4 Nations, so, thought would need to be given to that but, as it stands, this fixture (or series) never felt like it was deciding anything, let alone the best club side in the world and the extended "series" is just meaningless fixtures between Aussie & English clubs.
Having said that, over here, there is an appetite for such fixtures, even though we get our backsides kicked. |
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Every year we have calls for less games for our international players - scrapping the WCC would be the first to go IMO. Second would be the magic weekend.
Just out of interest - If Ian Lenaghan arranges next year's WCC bash down under with Warrington, Wigan and Saints taking part wouldn't that be putting the cart before the horse as none of the above have qualified yet ? Has the WCC become an invitation event ?
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| Quote Tigerade="Tigerade"Every year we have calls for less games for our international players - scrapping the WCC would be the first to go IMO. Second would be the magic weekend.
Just out of interest - If Ian Lenaghan arranges next year's WCC bash down under with Warrington, Wigan and Saints taking part wouldn't that be putting the cart before the horse as none of the above have qualified yet ? Has the WCC become an invitation event ?'"
It makes you think that way. Talk of Wigan and Warrington playing in Oz next year yet neither have qualified |
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| Quote Huddersfield1895="Huddersfield1895"For all his faults Uncle Mo use to get us column inches, and the game had a higher profile than is does now.'"
Wasn't keen on him with his Wigan Hat on, but for promoting the professional game he could really put to shame how shambolic big Nige really is. Big Nige and the NRL are turning the World Club Series into a damp squib, I reckon Uncle Mo would have done something different to progress into that top 4 (super league) v top 4 (NRL) comp. |
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Quote number 6="number 6"Quote number 6="Tigerade"Every year we have calls for less games for our international players - scrapping the WCC would be the first to go IMO. Second would be the magic weekend.
Just out of interest - If Ian Lenaghan arranges next year's WCC bash down under with Warrington, Wigan and Saints taking part wouldn't that be putting the cart before the horse as none of the above have qualified yet ? Has the WCC become an invitation event ?'"
It makes you think that way. Talk of Wigan and Warrington playing in Oz next year yet neither have qualified'"
That's not what he's said.
Wigan chairman Ian Lenagan told a news conference at Orrell that his club were close to playing the 2017 World Club Challenge - the centre-piece of the series - in Australia and had also raised the possibility of kicking off the Super League campaign against Warrington Down Under.
Read more at: www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby-l ... -1-8389627
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“I think it would be great for Super League and for rugby league generally to play the series in Australia,” Lenagan said. “We proved it with Wigan against the Roosters in Sydney three years ago by getting 35,000 people there that there is an appetite and the more we can open eyes, to the Australians in particular, to the international club arrangement, the better. If that means we go to them, then we go to them. “We are, as always, in discussions 12 months in advance, about what happens in February 2018. We came very close indeed to playing this game in Australia this year.”
Read more at: www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby-l ... -1-8389627
But once again, let's have a pop without checking the full facts.
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Quote number 6="number 6"Quote number 6="Tigerade"Every year we have calls for less games for our international players - scrapping the WCC would be the first to go IMO. Second would be the magic weekend.
Just out of interest - If Ian Lenaghan arranges next year's WCC bash down under with Warrington, Wigan and Saints taking part wouldn't that be putting the cart before the horse as none of the above have qualified yet ? Has the WCC become an invitation event ?'"
It makes you think that way. Talk of Wigan and Warrington playing in Oz next year yet neither have qualified'"
That's not what he's said.
Wigan chairman Ian Lenagan told a news conference at Orrell that his club were close to playing the 2017 World Club Challenge - the centre-piece of the series - in Australia and had also raised the possibility of kicking off the Super League campaign against Warrington Down Under.
Read more at: www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby-l ... -1-8389627
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“I think it would be great for Super League and for rugby league generally to play the series in Australia,” Lenagan said. “We proved it with Wigan against the Roosters in Sydney three years ago by getting 35,000 people there that there is an appetite and the more we can open eyes, to the Australians in particular, to the international club arrangement, the better. If that means we go to them, then we go to them. “We are, as always, in discussions 12 months in advance, about what happens in February 2018. We came very close indeed to playing this game in Australia this year.”
Read more at: www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby-l ... -1-8389627
But once again, let's have a pop without checking the full facts.
Seems quite popular these days. | |
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Quote Jukesays="Jukesays"That's not what he's said.
Wigan chairman Ian Lenagan told a news conference at Orrell that his club were close to playing the 2017 World Club Challenge - the centre-piece of the series - in Australia and had also raised the possibility of kicking off the Super League campaign against Warrington Down Under.
Read more at: www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby-l ... -1-8389627
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“I think it would be great for Super League and for rugby league generally to play the series in Australia,” Lenagan said. “We proved it with Wigan against the Roosters in Sydney three years ago by getting 35,000 people there that there is an appetite and the more we can open eyes, to the Australians in particular, to the international club arrangement, the better. If that means we go to them, then we go to them. “We are, as always, in discussions 12 months in advance, about what happens in February 2018. We came very close indeed to playing this game in Australia this year.”
Read more at: www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby-l ... -1-8389627
But once again, let's have a pop without checking the full facts.
Seems quite popular these days.'"
in the first link on the previous page, lenagan said that wigan and warrington have already had discussions about playing the opening round of SL in OZ next season, if for some way, neither qualify for the WCS or WCC then will they still go ahead? |
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Quote Jukesays="Jukesays"That's not what he's said.
Wigan chairman Ian Lenagan told a news conference at Orrell that his club were close to playing the 2017 World Club Challenge - the centre-piece of the series - in Australia and had also raised the possibility of kicking off the Super League campaign against Warrington Down Under.
Read more at: www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby-l ... -1-8389627
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“I think it would be great for Super League and for rugby league generally to play the series in Australia,” Lenagan said. “We proved it with Wigan against the Roosters in Sydney three years ago by getting 35,000 people there that there is an appetite and the more we can open eyes, to the Australians in particular, to the international club arrangement, the better. If that means we go to them, then we go to them. “We are, as always, in discussions 12 months in advance, about what happens in February 2018. We came very close indeed to playing this game in Australia this year.”
Read more at: www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby-l ... -1-8389627
But once again, let's have a pop without checking the full facts.
Seems quite popular these days.'"
in the first link on the previous page, lenagan said that wigan and warrington have already had discussions about playing the opening round of SL in OZ next season, if for some way, neither qualify for the WCS or WCC then will they still go ahead? | |
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