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| How about a penalty to the defending team when the ball player dives, or cheats to try and win a penalty?
Instead of the ref shouting, "he's playing for it" or "he's diving" penalise them!
This aspect of the game has really spoilt my enjoyment of the game , so much that i don't think i watched half the games that were live on SKY, sort it out please.
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| Quote The Devil's Advocate="The Devil's Advocate"I'm pleased they've gone for the seven tackle rule for a twenty metre restart, but I don't understand the Goal Line Dropout one?
Does this mean we still have that silly thing where someone can scoop a moving ball out of play & get a tap?'"
Nope, the ball now has to touch the line or the field deemed out of play to be dead..a player cannot now make a ball dead by standing outside the field of play.
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| I don't agree with the goal line drop out rule, I don't know why the rule should be different at the dead ball line than the touch lines.
I'm not a big fan of the 0 tackle from the ball rolling dead but the one thing about the drop out change is that it mitigates the impact of this a bit
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| Quote pie.warrior="pie.warrior"Nope, the ball now has to touch the line or the field deemed out of play to be dead..a player cannot now make a ball dead by standing outside the field of play.'"
I think I get your drift, I was just bamboozled where it says.
=#4080FFWhere the ball is stationary in the in-goal area comes into contact with a player in touch, in goal or over the dead ball line, the ball is deemed to have been made dead by that player. The ball must have bounced on the ground either on or over the dead ball line/touch in goal line for a 20m restart to be awarded.
They talk about a "stationary ball" not a moving one?
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| Quote pie.warrior="pie.warrior"Nope, the ball now has to touch the line or the field deemed out of play to be dead..a player cannot now make a ball dead by standing outside the field of play.'"
That's good. Whoever brought that rule in (fairly recent) needs shooting.
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| Quote The Devil's Advocate="The Devil's Advocate"I think I get your drift, I was just bamboozled where it says.
=#4080FFWhere the ball is stationary in the in-goal area comes into contact with a player in touch, in goal or over the dead ball line, the ball is deemed to have been made dead by that player. The ball must have bounced on the ground either on or over the dead ball line/touch in goal line for a 20m restart to be awarded.
They talk about a "stationary ball" not a moving one?'"
My take on this bit is; if the ball lands in play and rolls to a stop in the field of play, a defending player cannot put themselves out of play then reach back in to touch the ball. The player is not considered an object so cannot impede the ball or force it out of play. The ball must now leave the field of play by it's own force, if it is influenced by a defending player in any way then it will considered to have been made dead by the defender which will result in a dropout
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| Have they kept hold of the 'free play rule'. That's something else that just wastes time. Who decides the rules of the game. Nigel Wood can't be involved in that as well can he. Or is he just in charge of trying to kill the game.
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| Quote Look that's not enya="Look that's not enya"Who decides the rules of the game. Nigel Wood can't be involved in that as well can he.'"
Yes he can - he chairs the Laws Committee that decides these rule changes; which at least guarantees that the lunch is good.
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| Quote bentleberry="bentleberry"My take on this bit is; if the ball lands in play and rolls to a stop in the field of play, a defending player cannot put themselves out of play then reach back in to touch the ball. The player is not considered an object so cannot impede the ball or force it out of play. The ball must now leave the field of play by it's own force, if it is influenced by a defending player in any way then it will considered to have been made dead by the defender which will result in a dropout'"
I get that bit, but what about if the ball is still moving?
Many times in the last couple of years I've seen some great kicks into the in-goal diffused by a defending player, by assisting it out of play whilst it's still moving, resulting in a tap twenty, is this still allowed?
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| Quote The Devil's Advocate="The Devil's Advocate"I get that bit, but what about if the ball is still moving?
Many times in the last couple of years I've seen some great kicks into the in-goal diffused by a defending player, by assisting it out of play whilst it's still moving, resulting in a tap twenty, is this still allowed?'"
No. The ball has to touch the floor over the deadball line to be considered dead. if a player touches it before it touches the floor over the deadball line, regardless of where they are stood, then they are deemed to have taken it dead. so that would be a drop out if done by a defender
Do we know if this applies at kick off too? I'm assuming it does
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| Quote RedUnderTheBed="RedUnderTheBed"No. The ball has to touch the floor over the deadball line to be considered dead. if a player touches it before it touches the floor over the deadball line, regardless of where they are stood, then they are deemed to have taken it dead. so that would be a drop out if done by a defender
Do we know if this applies at kick off too? I'm assuming it does'"
Thanks for trying to clear it up, however, it states in the article :-
=#0080FFThe previous rule of a player being able to straddle the dead ball line or touch in-goal line and be awarded a 20m restart has now changed.
=#0080FFWhere the ball is stationary in the in-goal area comes into contact with a player in touch, in goal or over the dead ball line, the ball is deemed to have been made dead by that player. The ball must have bounced on the ground either on or over the dead ball line/touch in goal line for a 20m restart to be awarded.
Maybe I'm too pedantic, or maybe the the wording is poor, but why does it state a stationary ball?
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