Not sure how you can say Wakey 'deserved their place in the top 8' when, they were only there by default...

Your reply to my claiming you would be underwhelmed with Allgood suggests otherwise.

Just interested in your opinion of us, how many points deduction have you got us down for ? because that squad would have finished seventh last year and we've only lost caton-brown and of co our usual one a season to Hull in Griffin.

Basing more on the your performance, In the middle eights, the one in which you lost to two championship teams, no recruitment and losing Sheens (maybe he was behind your early success?) You are very, very lucky to be even in this league.

If everyone put Roversmad on ignore, that'd already make this site a better place. Bitterness and jealousy is strong with that one.

Jealous and bitter because I don't rate Allgood? Ignore me, I couldn't care less.

It could also be argued that squad shouldn't have been anywhere near the middle 8's, as for no recruitment please define "no"

Sense at last!

Let me be clear about this, Wakefield have every chance of finishing in the bottom 4 of SL, maybe even bottom was do a large number of clubs once things start for real and I’m as nervous about this as ever - you just can’t tell.

What narks me about these predictions is they are not based on any present form but on previous form and player acquisition/retention and the perceived effects that will have on the team. In other words it’s all on paper.

With this in mind I can’t see how anyone who isn’t either prejudiced or biased could place Wakefield at the bottom. For my money that place automatically goes to Leigh who have no previous form and a group of players (not a team) that has been assembled with a large number of new recruits. They may do brilliantly but at this point they have no SL pedigree other than one victory last season.

Personally I hope Leigh do extremely well but sanity suggests bottom. Ditto Hudds who really seem to be struggling, I don’t think signings are the be all and end all but Hudds clearly need some and they seem to be very late. I slow think anyone can see that the exceptional talent that is Danny Brough is winding down, the equally important Robinson has gone and a Hudds team without Crabtree!

I nominate those two as SL strugglers based on science - whether they will in reality I have no idea. I think Wakefield are a match for both Salford, Cas, Catalan and Widnes and I see us battling for bottom four and 7th or 8th with those teams.

I see on last years from Hull, Wigan, Warrington as definite top four with Leeds and Saints to hard to call.

Warrington
Hull
Wigan
Saints
Leeds
Catalan (based only on Bird doing well and home advantage)
Castleford
Salford
Wakefield
Widnes
Hudds
Leigh

but that’s really just an educated guess nothing more.

Yet you don't have the same question mark over Leigh, a newly promoted club with loads of new recruits and an unproven Coach - seriously! Ditto Salford - seriously!

Don't get me wrong, once the season starts Wakey like many teams could easily implode and finish bottom - however on this thread these are predictions based on last seasons form and this seasons recruitment in which case you have no real argument other than prejudice and assumptions certainly not the playing roster.

Mind you people have been making that error with Wakefield for 17 years so if they haven't learned by now....

So what your saying is Wakefield could finish anywhere even bottom but when anyone else says it they haven't got a clue yeah that makes sense for the record I think Wakefield have recruited really well certainly better than Widnes, Salford, Huddersfield and even Leigh who I think will struggle

I'm saying this could be the possibilities when the season starts which is all mystic meg stuff if we are honest.

For now though when all teams are just on paper I don't honestly see how Wakefield can be placed bottom of any seriously thought out list. I'm suggesting anything between 10th and 6th as a starting position and in my case I think we will be ninth which I don't want or 8th which I do.

Just as an aside two of Wakefield youngsters Tom Johnstone and Max Jowitt took both the young players awards last season. If that had happened at any other club people would be creaming themselves. I Johnstone we have a future England and world class Winger barring injury and early signs suggest Jowitt is heading the same was way and both are under long contracts. Following them up with first team contract are James Batchelor and Judah Mazive both England Academy players. Forget about signings, for me these are the real signs of a team on the up.

Yes it could all go boobs up but for now the things need to be taken into account. Anyway we'll beg to differ.