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| Quote: Leaguefan "If the match officials are having to tell the players how to play, then what chance is there?
It's ALWAYS the players who are the problem yet it's just like the emporours new clothes with far too many.
I wish the match officials kept quiet and only were heard when explaining the "correct " decision. It may take a while but being constantly penalised may force the players to read and Understand the rules and the coaches, and perhaps even some fans but that is a step too far perhaps
It's not ALWAYS the players. It would be if the rules were applied consistently in every game but that's not the case. That probably isn't even possible. The game is very fast and requires "interpretation", for want of a better word, but that interpretation can require discussion and explanation. Also, there is the obvious situation of where a player may be offside, if the ref tells him then this can enable a better situation for both the attacking team and the game as a whole, so it would seem reasonable in that situation for there to be communication.
As I said, some can be cut down but most is fairly necessary for an incredibly fast game to be played at that speed.
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| Easy. Turn off the ref's microphone when the game is underway and then restore it when he's explaining a decision. It won't annoy anyone then.
As a former player I welcomed a vocal referee. Ones that are quiet end up having to blow up more as players are unaware they're in danger of infringing. I had more confidence in a ref that was able to make himself heard and kept the advice up as he went along.
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| Quote: Bullseye "Easy. Turn off the ref's microphone when the game is underway and then restore it when he's explaining a decision. It won't annoy anyone then.
As a former player I welcomed a vocal referee. Ones that are quiet end up having to blow up more as players are unaware they're in danger of infringing. I had more confidence in a ref that was able to make himself heard and kept the advice up as he went along.'"
Well put, sir !
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| I disagree that the Move call can go, if we get rid of that, how will players know when to get off a tackled man? There's no set time, and it already varies depending on which ref.
Agree on the onside wait call though.
And my big thing at the minute is the markers square and moving off the mark. If there moving off the mark penalise them. If their not square penalise them. Wed have a much cleaner ruck for it. Instead of what we have now, which is a mess and constant short 10's as the ref compensates for letting the player move off the mark.
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| Quote: bren2k "I share the view that refs are doing too much coaching during a game - some seem to favour an ongoing dialogue about ruck-speed, on-side etc, rather than just penalising infringements; and the new one is shouting out the reason they *haven't* given a penalty, such as "trapped" or "you're diving forward," which I guess is an inevitable consequence of the new fashion for certain players to constantly appeal for penalties - they feel pressured to justify themselves.
The real issue however, is the volume their microphones are set to for the broadcast audio; it would be interesting to hear them talk to players after penalties and incidents, but since the massive posse of people involved in commentary always talk over them anyway, it would probably work best if Sky just reduced the volume.'"
This!
Absolutely spot on, I am the point now where i really don't enjoy the coverage anymore but still watch out of loyalty to the sport i guess.
That and the play acting and wrestling is just slowly draining any enjoyment for the game.
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| Quote: Barrie's Glass Eye "I disagree that the Move call can go, if we get rid of that, how will players know when to get off a tackled man? There's no set time, and it already varies depending on which ref.
Agree on the onside wait call though.
And my big thing at the minute is the markers square and moving off the mark. If there moving off the mark penalise them. If their not square penalise them. Wed have a much cleaner ruck for it. Instead of what we have now, which is a mess and constant short 10's as the ref compensates for letting the player move off the mark.'"
Same as it always used to be, the ref calls held, or the tackle number and you then get off the tackled player before he penalises you, this whole hanging on and wrestling stuff is awful and it should be wiped out of the game, the responsibility then falls on the tacklers and defensive line to get set as best they can to avoid getting caught out.
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