FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > How Toulouse, Toronto and Montreal join Super League matters
64 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8676
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
14002_1637716780.jpg
"I know you've had a bad day, but there's no need to take it out on me":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_14002.jpg



Quote: Doom&Gloom Merchant "Ahh, the old 'I was trolling for bites' excuse after being made to look insular & stupid.'"


Don't be siily you Prat (I'll get personal as well) It's common knowledge that if ANYONE dares to criticize the 'Global expansion of Rugby league by the RFL' on the VT be prepared to wear a 'tin hat'.
My initial response was to Jean's hatred of M62 clubs, then I'd thought I'd add what I think of Catalans/Toulouse/Toronto anyway. I've done it before, and I knew what response I'd get, and I wasn't disappointed. Folk that agreed with me couldn't @rsed typing anything (as it's old news), and the 'very few' who disagreed, got all 'upset' about it.....awww Bless !! icon_lol.gif

RankPostsTeam
International Star17939
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
simpsons/simp006.gif
:simpsons/simp006.gif



Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "They should be. I fully expect Toulouse to thrash the woeful Wakefield club in Toulouse's first year in Super League, and if woeful Wakefield is still in Super League by the time Toronto arrives, I am sure that the Canadian club will repeat Toulouse's performance.'"


Yeah, 'cos they will fly through the Championship wont they.
It's not that easy, just ask Bradford AND under the new structure, nobody has been promoted from the Championship, yet d040.gif

It wasn't too long ago that you were telling us how good Catalan were and how they were going to win the Grand final.
Since then they have been beaten twice by the "nervous" Wakefield team.

Maybe, it's your knees that I can hear knocking.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4525
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024May 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
13619.gif
:13619.gif



I agree that it would be great for expansion but feel the RFL should be looking at the game here as well. There are so many clubs that rely solely on the largess of a rich backer to survive. I think this is akin to organising the deckchairs on the Titanic whilst it sinks.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1869No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2018Apr 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
51864_1312823830.gif
Just Win, Baby [b:38co1fbc]GIANTS RAIDERS TOFFEES[/b:38co1fbc]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51864.gif



Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "
Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "I think with the money that Toulouse and Toronto appear to have i think its only a matter of time before both are knocking on the Super League door. The RFL will have to expand the competition back to 14 teams again.'"


You don't have to convince me. I agree with you completely. Adding two new clubs to Super League won't dilute the quality of Super League players very much because although both clubs will start out with lots of Super League Englishmen, and/or NRL standard Aussies and Kiwis, Toulouse will still be majority French players from the beginning, and Toronto plans to be majority north American players within five years.'"


Hey Barrie, how's things man? Are you still following Cronulla or is that done? I agree with expansion but really, it has to come in the form of clubs coming up through the lower divisions. No nonsense, so clubs can believe the road is fair and people domestically who want to come in and invest can do. There are plenty of good investment opportunities in Rugby League, it just requires improvement in guidance from the RFL in marketing and getting the word out. Toronto, whatever they turn out like, have made waves and they should be commended for that. The RFL should listen and help out with all clubs and make it as attractive as possible below SL to invest and encourage success. For me that should be a total introduction of a turnover-percentage based salary cap below Super League, the more media, sponsor and attendance revenue you get, the more you have to play with.

RankPostsTeam
International Star2794
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201311 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2023Jun 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
70807_1599340376.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_70807.jpg



Would this work ?

Create a [iSL1 & SL2 Franchise[/i each of [i9 Clubs[/i starting season 2020 * to provide 3 years planning for all prospective RL Clubs.

This gives 16 regular rounds instead of the current 22 + 2 Magic Weekends each for both SL1/2 gives an 18 round season & 4 RL roadshows to go to the likes of the N.E, Scotland, Wales & Midlands.

The free dates allow for 2 extra Internationals + rest weeks & the season could start a couple weeks later avoiding the bitterly cold February start.

At the end of the regular rounds we then have bottom 2 of SL1 & top 2 of SL2 change places & Play Offs between top 2 of SL1 & top 2 of SL2 for overall SL Champions.

Invite Toulouse Olympique, Toronto & Montreal to join the franchise & put the French in 1 League & Canadians in the other, this way both have the benefit of 2 all French/all Canadian fixtures in regular rounds + Play Off RL.

Both the 2 French & 2 Canadian Clubs reverse Leagues every year to provide variety & stop stagnation of both Leagues & furthermore so that other SL Club supporters get to travel away to both Countries.

So who then are the other 3 admissions to SL1/2 ?

Obviously I go for Leigh, IMHO as a Club we are best prepared on & off field to compete at SL level.

London, the RFL would $PUN|< themselves silly for this & if going all out expansion they have to be in despite all the false dawns.

Bradford Bulls, who could ignore the possible benefits of a large fan base bringing revenue to other Clubs when Bulls visit.

Give every Club a 5 year Franchise with conditions & this time around strictly enforce those conditions & do not deviate from them.

Every SL1/2 Club to run an Academy team.
Reduction on overseas quotas by 2025 *to what level would have to be thrashed out*.

Stadium standards, every SL1/2 Club to have a secure tenancy at [iModern Stadia[/i fit for SL by 2025 (this would push the likes of London, Wakefield, Castleford & Bradford towards suitable & sustainable stadia).

Club finance/structures/business plan, should go through rigorous process of fit for purpose review & engagement with RFL & should possibly be outsourced to a Specialist Company in this field.

Could look something like this ...

Super League 1
Wigan
St Helens
Hull FC
Hull KR
Wakefield
Castleford
Catalan
Toulouse
London

Super League 2

Leeds
Bradford
Warrington
Widnes
Huddersfield
Salford
Leigh
Toronto
Montreal

Edit.

You will notice that in the inaugural season of this system I have protected the biggest Derby Fixtures by lumping said Clubs in same Leagues.

Oh & raise the Salary Cap by 15% + 1x up to £1m Marquee Player exempt from SC.

Raise the Cap for Championship incrementally & proportionally to SL1/2 over the period 2020 - 2025 & maintain proportional Cap relevant to SL increases thereafter.

I have posted similar before but tweaked it a little for this thread.

64 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
64 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


2.25048828125:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3m
Fax v Fev
terry silver
9
5m
Toulouse game
MKcat
10
5m
This weeks disciplinary
karetaker
1167
7m
Recruitment rumours and links
karetaker
2622
10m
Luke Yates In
fez1
1
10m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
38066
11m
Shopping list for 2025
Irregs#16
3266
12m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
60266
28m
Recovery Room
wakeytrin
2
31m
Wakefield H
AgbriggAmble
42
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
28s
FC v hull kr
Marcus's Bic
163
29s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
1891
33s
Recruitment rumours and links
karetaker
2622
34s
Fax v Fev
terry silver
9
35s
Rumours thread
Khlav Kalash
1667
46s
York v Dons Sunday 14th July 2024 3pm
Wilf Grimsha
12
53s
Luke Yates In
fez1
1
54s
Reserves
Deadcowboys1
5
1m
Horne Out
Kick and cha
6
1m
Cam Scott leaves the building
Dave K.
15
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Luke Yates In
fez1
1
TODAY
Recovery Room
wakeytrin
2
TODAY
Featherstone v Dons Saturday 20/7/24 6pm
Kick and cha
2
TODAY
Un-optimised forum
Wires71
3
TODAY
is there an alternative to twitter
wakeytrin
4
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 18
finglas
3
TODAY
Wakefield March On With Win Over Bradford
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Cam Scott leaves the building
Dave K.
15
TODAY
Mingechellas balls
Jake the Peg
8
TODAY
Catalans Dragons Swap Places With Salford Red Devils
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Wakefield AFC
AgbriggAmble
1
TODAY
New Singings
Trojan Horse
9
TODAY
KR win the Hull Derby to Into Third Spot
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Fixture List
Wires71
4
TODAY
Wigan Warriors Extend League Lead with Derby Win
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Toulouse game
MKcat
10
TODAY
Ashton extends contract
chris2925
1
TODAY
Damel Diakhate
Eastern Wild
5
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wakefield March On With Win Ov..
350
Catalans Dragons Swap Places W..
386
KR win the Hull Derby to Into ..
391
Wigan Warriors Extend League L..
525
Warrington Wolves Into Second ..
558
Salford Hold On To Beat Unluck..
927
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win O..
1518
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thri..
1668
Wakefield Trinity Register Thi..
2538
Englands Youngsters Beat Franc..
1881
Big Win for England Women Over..
1662
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
1933
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
1907
Super League form rewarded as ..
2293
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
2377
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.6M 3,352 80,08514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Wed 17th Jul
     State of Origin 2023-R3
11:05
Queensland
v
New South Wales
 Fri 19th Jul
     National Rugby League 2024-R20
11:00
Canberra
v
NZ Warriors
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R18
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Warrington
20:00
Leigh
v
LondonB
 Sat 20th Jul
     National Rugby League 2024-R20
06:00
Souths
v
Wests
08:30
Newcastle
v
Brisbane
10:35
Melbourne
v
Sydney
     Womens Super League 2024-R9
12:00
York V
v
WiganW
14:00
St.HelensW
v
Wire W
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R18
14:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
       Championship 2024-R18
15:00
Bradford
v
York
15:00
Halifax
v
Widnes
15:00
Swinton
v
Whitehaven
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R18
15:00
Leeds
v
Hull KR
       Championship 2024-R16
17:00
Toulouse
v
Wakefield
18:00
Featherstone
v
Doncaster
 Sun 21st Jul
     National Rugby League 2024-R20
05:00
Penrith
v
Dolphins
07:05
Manly
v
Gold Coast
09:15
NQL Cowboys
v
Canterbury
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Wed 17th Jul
SOO
11:05
Queensland-New South Wales
Fri 19th Jul
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
SL
20:00
Leigh-LondonB
Sat 20th Jul
SL
14:00
Hull FC-Wigan
SL
15:00
Leeds-Hull KR
Sun 21st Jul
SL
15:00
Castleford-Catalans
Sat 17th Aug
SL
18:00
Warrington-Leeds
SL
15:30
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
13:00
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:00
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:30
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:00
Huddersfield-Castleford
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sun 14th Jul
NRL 19 Manly44-6Newcastle
CH 15 Batley22-2Barrow
CH 15 Bradford2-14Wakefield
CH 15 Halifax6-14Featherstone
CH 15 Sheffield22-34Swinton
CH 15 Widnes34-12Dewsbury
CH 15 York27-0Doncaster
L1 15 Newcastle16-42Hunslet
L1 15 Oldham32-6Crusaders
L1 15 Workington14-12Rochdale
WSL2024 8 York V62-0FeatherstoneW
WSL2024 8 Wire W4-50LeedsW
WSL2024 8 Hudds W4-18BarrowW
Sat 13th Jul
NRL 19 Gold Coast24-16Parramatta
NRL 19 Brisbane26-30St.George
SL 17 Hull FC10-24Hull KR
SL 17 Leigh20-16Huddersfield
SL 17 Catalans20-0Salford
CH 15 Whitehaven24-34Toulouse
Fri 12th Jul
NRL 19 Cronulla58-6Wests
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 16 443 182 261 28
Warrington 17 436 231 205 24
Hull KR 17 421 227 194 24
St.Helens 17 441 186 255 22
Catalans 17 324 234 90 22
Salford 17 317 328 -11 22
 
Leeds 17 309 316 -7 18
Leigh 16 290 266 24 13
Huddersfield 17 314 385 -71 12
Castleford 17 280 455 -175 11
Hull FC 17 228 520 -292 4
LondonB 17 176 649 -473 2
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 15 534 156 378 30
Sheffield 15 404 251 153 22
Toulouse 14 378 210 168 19
Bradford 15 355 244 111 19
Widnes 15 361 281 80 17
Featherstone 15 410 289 121 16
 
York 16 366 305 61 14
Batley 15 239 322 -83 14
Doncaster 15 257 368 -111 13
Swinton 15 318 366 -48 12
Halifax 15 276 419 -143 10
Whitehaven 15 290 458 -168 10
Barrow 14 217 415 -198 10
Dewsbury 16 196 473 -277 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3m
Fax v Fev
terry silver
9
5m
Toulouse game
MKcat
10
5m
This weeks disciplinary
karetaker
1167
7m
Recruitment rumours and links
karetaker
2622
10m
Luke Yates In
fez1
1
10m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
38066
11m
Shopping list for 2025
Irregs#16
3266
12m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
60266
28m
Recovery Room
wakeytrin
2
31m
Wakefield H
AgbriggAmble
42
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
28s
FC v hull kr
Marcus's Bic
163
29s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
1891
33s
Recruitment rumours and links
karetaker
2622
34s
Fax v Fev
terry silver
9
35s
Rumours thread
Khlav Kalash
1667
46s
York v Dons Sunday 14th July 2024 3pm
Wilf Grimsha
12
53s
Luke Yates In
fez1
1
54s
Reserves
Deadcowboys1
5
1m
Horne Out
Kick and cha
6
1m
Cam Scott leaves the building
Dave K.
15
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Luke Yates In
fez1
1
TODAY
Recovery Room
wakeytrin
2
TODAY
Featherstone v Dons Saturday 20/7/24 6pm
Kick and cha
2
TODAY
Un-optimised forum
Wires71
3
TODAY
is there an alternative to twitter
wakeytrin
4
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 18
finglas
3
TODAY
Wakefield March On With Win Over Bradford
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Cam Scott leaves the building
Dave K.
15
TODAY
Mingechellas balls
Jake the Peg
8
TODAY
Catalans Dragons Swap Places With Salford Red Devils
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Wakefield AFC
AgbriggAmble
1
TODAY
New Singings
Trojan Horse
9
TODAY
KR win the Hull Derby to Into Third Spot
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Fixture List
Wires71
4
TODAY
Wigan Warriors Extend League Lead with Derby Win
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Toulouse game
MKcat
10
TODAY
Ashton extends contract
chris2925
1
TODAY
Damel Diakhate
Eastern Wild
5
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wakefield March On With Win Ov..
350
Catalans Dragons Swap Places W..
386
KR win the Hull Derby to Into ..
391
Wigan Warriors Extend League L..
525
Warrington Wolves Into Second ..
558
Salford Hold On To Beat Unluck..
927
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win O..
1518
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thri..
1668
Wakefield Trinity Register Thi..
2538
Englands Youngsters Beat Franc..
1881
Big Win for England Women Over..
1662
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
1933
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
1907
Super League form rewarded as ..
2293
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
2377


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!