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| Quote: Judder Man "Way off the mark, Barnett is not even in the same "league" as the five mentioned especially with longevity at the highest level in both attack and defence.
Wellens 231 tries
Radlinski 183 tries
Hodgson 147 tries
Dorn 178 tries
Tomkins 159 tries
Barnett 59 tries
As for grandpa Wellens him and Hodgson are probably the best full backs at taking the high ball, they didn't call Wellens "Mr Radar" for nothing especially with those ears.'"
You have blundered in your analysis by failing to take account of the fact that Richard Rohan Barnett was in Super League for only a very short time -- two years -- unlike the other dreary characters you mention who spent their entire careers there. That is why comparative try tallies are irrelevant.
Richard Rohan Barnett did not have lengthy career in first grade rugby league, because he was living in New Zealand before the expansion of the now fabulous NRL. He first made his name as a winger at the Cronulla Sharks and subsequently at the Sydney Roosters. He came to prominence as a full back -- the best in Super League -- during his twilight years with the London Broncos. He had lost some of his speed but not his sidestep, which bamboozled the opposition in a way that straight running Kristopher Radlinski or the boring and painfully slow plodder Grandpa Wellens never could. Richard Rohan Barnett captained New Zealand from full back in the 2000 World Cup.
There is only one player in Super League who could dazzle at full back like Richard Barnett, and that was another former London Bronco named Mark McLinden.
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| Quote: saintcj "Makes me laugh to call wellens over rated. Check out some old footage on youpube in his prime wello was a fantastic player. I actually rate him over radlinski. Only just though.'"
He had everything for a top full back except pace.
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Oh please, Mumby wasn't fit to lace Gary Kemble's boots and some. Mumby was a good solid professional but a long line of averageness that the GB selectors plumbed for BITD.'"
Unlike you on Mumby, I'm not going to diss Kemble, who was a decent player, but really, there is no comparison, as a defensive FB Mumby (who played nearly 600 games, almost all of which I watched) (cf Kemble's 200) really was in a league of his own.
The problem with the selectors was not that they picked Mumby, but that they didn't want to play him at FB because they wanted to use him as a defensive plug in the centres. Crazy.
I have never watched a FB who could tackle, defend and cut off attacks like Sir Keith could and I doubt I ever will.
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| Best fullback in the Superleague? Either Radlinski or Brent Webb
Best fullback I've seen play in the UK? E.T.
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| Quote: tigertot "He had everything for a top full back except pace.'"
I think it was more lack of acceleration than all out pace, where he made up for it was his reading of the game, he always seemed to know where the kick was coming from or the angle of the runner and was in position to snuff out any danger. On his kick returns for his five prime years he would always beat the first man and offload with technique rather than pace. You could probably count on one hand the no of dropped passes from high bombs in one season, very unlike todays full backs who struggle to judge the path of a high ball and quite often let it bounce or lack understanding with the winger.
He was also very brave or suicidal covering a low bouncing ball, think he had 2 or 3 broken jaws/eye sockets colliding with opposition legs, bradford bulls cup game was one of them.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Unlike you on Mumby, I'm not going to diss Kemble, who was a decent player, but really, there is no comparison, as a defensive FB Mumby (who played nearly 600 games, almost all of which I watched) (cf Kemble's 200) really was in a league of his own.
The problem with the selectors was not that they picked Mumby, but that they didn't want to play him at FB because they wanted to use him as a defensive plug in the centres. Crazy.
I have never watched a FB who could tackle, defend and cut off attacks like Sir Keith could and I doubt I ever will.'"
I wasn't dissing Mumby, I was ridiculing your ridiculous notion that Mumby was the GOAT FB from a defensive POV.
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