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| Quote ploinerrhino="ploinerrhino"This has become an absolute joke , half the time they are guessing , the decision goes upstairs and they stick with his decision when it is 95% clear that it should be reversed .'"
Can you show any evidence that's it's 95%?
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| Quote RoyBoy29="RoyBoy29"Has no one figured it out yet
The video ref is there for entertainment purposes.
Suspense, controversy, anticipation, stupidity. It's all there, refs should have the balls to mAke the call without sending it "upstairs". Makes the ref look incompetent.
All in the name of entertainment.'"
Of course, why improve the game, why make it fairer for all? 
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| All I can repeat is I don't understand why it seems to be going so poorly in SL when it works well in the NRL. My main gripe is that there are clear instances where the VR overrules the ref's on field call without clear evidence. That wasn't and isn't the intent of making refs make a call. The other gripe is using mega slow motion to show a player has lost a ball for a nanosecond when in real time that is impossible to see.
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| I hate the dreaded blurr, They should use high speed cameras as used in nature programmes.
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| Go back to how it was if the refs not sure send it to Video ref but do not say try or no try job done
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| It's a shame Thierry Alibert isn't a twin or we could have one as the on field ref and one as the vid ref. [iThat[/i would be entertainment.
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| The theory is fine. The video refs just need to implement it better and be more accountable when they make decisions that aren't properly justified.
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| This was introduced to stop forcing the VR to make a decision when the footage wasn't conclusive. If we get rid of the on field decision then what happens if the VR can't prove it? Either they guess like in the old days in SL (I'm sure we could dig out a few threads on 'benefit of the doubt' from a few years back). Or they have 'refs call' like the NRL used to and it goes back to the in field ref which is the same as this but in reverse
This way reinforces the on field ref being in charge and stops them just passing the book. No system can be infallible but this feels the best way to me.
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| Quote RedUnderTheBed="RedUnderTheBed"This was introduced to stop forcing the VR to make a decision when the footage wasn't conclusive. If we get rid of the on field decision then what happens if the VR can't prove it? Either they guess like in the old days in SL (I'm sure we could dig out a few threads on 'benefit of the doubt' from a few years back). Or they have 'refs call' like the NRL used to and it goes back to the in field ref which is the same as this but in reverse
This way reinforces the on field ref being in charge and stops them just passing the book. No system can be infallible but this feels the best way to me.'"
Or... they simply say, if the ref's not convinced he's seen a try scored, it's no try. If you didn't see it, you can't give it. I'd be happy with that.
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| For me there should be just one person making decisions and that's the referee.
If he's happy after consulting with his touch judges, he gives it.
If there's something he couldn't see he asks to see the video. Then he makes his decision based on all the available evidence.
This could be used at non-televised games too, just with fewer camera angles.
Just need a decent techie operating the video.
Awarding tries by committee is just cumbersome and dull, but sky think controversy is more entertaining than sport.
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| Hardaker's no try against Wigan is the perfect example of why this system is flawed. There was no camera angle that showed conclusively that either the ball or the ball carrying arm had hit the floor and similarly there was only one that may have shown that it had not, what that means in the current system is that if it gets sent up as a try it remains a try, if it gets sent up as a no try it remains no try. No benefit of the doubt given to the attacking team means that they either score a try or concede a penalty when they're in a fantastic position, and based on what? Guess work.
The burden of proof on the video ref is, in my opinion, too high. We've seen this with the erroneous obstruction decisions over the last couple of seasons where legitimate tries have been chalked off and clear fouls have been allowed - all because of the ref's guess on the field. Either the VR is there to ensure that the correct decision is reached as often as possible, or they're their to confirm what the ref thought happened. Unfortunately you cannot have both because the human eye in real time will miss a lot.
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