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How do you explain Sheffield Steelers and Nottingham Panthers getting average crowds of 5k and upto 10k for bigger games in a game in Iceland Hockey that has almost no presence in this country.

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Don't use London as an example. They were ran abysmally. Had they ran a club in Yorkshire, it would have been relegated.

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Quote: bewareshadows "I'm trying to think of a sport that I enjoy watching but have never had any interest or exeperience in playing.
I'm all for expansion, but my point is that do people just watch sport because they enjoy it or is it born out of some experience with the game.

The best example is London. It was in the top flight for many years, yes it moved about but we are talking London one of the biggest and richest cities in the world and it could not get a regular 5000 people turning up to watch.

I know the saying is build it and they will come, but I doubt that the sheer enthusiasm of a backer can spur 10,000 to turn up to watch a game they have no experience of.'"


There are plenty of examples of sport being popular, without large numbers taking part.

American Football (they can fill Wembley stadium and the game isn't really played in this country)
Tour de France (Yorkshire) Huge numbers watching a sport that has never previously had mass appeal
Horse Racing. Not too many people have taken part in this but, plenty turn up to watch
The Boat Race (the biggest load of tosh ever but, viewing and spectator numbers are huge)

Even Figure Skating was popular a few years ago.

It's all about publicity and hype, plus clever marketing

If we paid some celebrities and put an advert together along the lines of "I'll be going, will you" and gave it sufficient air time, people would turn up.

The media can generate interest in absolutely anything. For our sport, it has proved too difficult to get them on board.
As to why they are so reluctant to show any interest is not known but, with the right marketing, anything can be "sold" to the general public.

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I keep reading in League Express how the amateur game in the heartlands is in a steep decline. If that is the case is there any choice but to expand the boundaries of the game? Or are less people playing in Hull because there is a club in Oxford now?

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: wrencat1873 "The media can generate interest in absolutely anything. For our sport, it has proved too difficult to get them on board.
As to why they are so reluctant to show any interest is not known but, with the right marketing, anything can be "sold" to the general public.'"
They don't show any interest because people in most of the country don't care about Wigan and Hull, and have never even heard of most of the other places where RL is popular.

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Quote: Halifax1989 "Stupid question I guess? But why are us RL fans so obsessed with expanding the game far and wide? Were so concerned with pushing the game to Wales, London and now Canada. For me, I'm proud to love a sport that is so strong in Halifax, Batley, Wigan, Hull, Castleford etc. If it doesn't catch on outside of Northern England and Australia then fair enough, we'll keep it to ourselves!

Is there anyone else that feels this way or am I just weird??'"

We have expand to attract new people to the game and new sponsors.
We are expanding, but at a slow pace.

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