Wakefield have had their cup finals - relegating Cas twice and then the million pound game last year. I'd suggest they've had more lucky escapes than many other teams have had enjoyable seasons. Teams like Salford haven't had anything to crow about over the last couple of decades. They've had the relegations that Wakefield haven't had and zero finals/lucky escapes - that's much rougher than constantly magicking yourself out of relegation as Wakefield have managed season after season.

So in SL, Salford have probably had it worse than Wakefield. Outside of SL you can take your pick - every team (with the exception of Bradford) have had it rougher than Wakefield. If Wakefield had ever been relegated, maybe their fans would appreciate that rather than whinging about constantly being the bottom feeders of SL.

If you don't think that a few relegations and promotions constitute up and down then I'm not the one in cloud cuckoo land. KR were in the third division in the late 90s (was it 96/97? Might be wrong) so you weren't relegated to get into that division which is DOWN and then promoted which is UP? Duh!

Keep clutching at those straws

It's time the Hull clubs were merged.

I agree. So should Bradford/Leeds, Wigan/Leigh, Cas/Wakefield/Featherstone, Warrington/Widnes etc. FWIW Hull were merged......................................with Gateshead Thunder!

Another Hull bitch-athon !! is there a thread that doesn't get hijacked by these lot ??