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| Quote The Devil's Advocate="The Devil's Advocate"...It's a pure pipedream that Sinfield will win the thing...'"
I think you're right, but I reckon we can get him in the top 3 and on the stage.
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| Quote RhinoNeil="RhinoNeil"If you're an RL fan then VOTE KEV. Simple as that. Imagine having an RL player as SPOTY?? (YES AN RL PLAYER NOT A UNION PLAYER. ALL THE VT'S THAT ARE BEEN FILMED ARE RL RELATED) The profile that will do for the sport will be immense! No 3"x3" column on the latter sports pages of the times...Back page Kevin Sinfield of the Northern game called Rugby League on the back page of every national newspaper....Not to mention getting one over Union again this year after their poor WC campaign. I'm not just saying this because its Kevin Sinfield. I would still urge everyone to vote even if it was Tomkins... RL is the bigger picture here.
I'll be voting all night. 100 times if time allows, and that will only be £15.'"
Back pages??? Thats just fantasy,he could win it and it really wont have the impact many are believing it will
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| Quote The Devil's Advocate="The Devil's Advocate"Yep but it’s not about rewarding a player who’s had a glittering club career though is it.
It’s purely about the achievements of a sportsman/woman in 2015.
Has Sinfield had a stellar season this year, well not IMO, has he been a great servant to the Leeds club, for sure, but the award isn’t for career achievements.
But let’s be fair, it’s very rare that the winner plays in a team sport & the only time a Union player won was when England took the World Cup!
It’s a pure pipedream that Sinfield will win the thing, even though the Leeds fans are being swept along on a tide of dewy eyed emotion.'"
Sinfield captained Leeds in a season they won every competition available to them. That is a pretty stellar season.
Id agree that Sinfield has played better, id even agree that he has been more important to leeds in some years, but there hasnt been a more successful year, and there hasnt been a year he has achieved more.
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| Just got to love the piece in the Radio Times - Christmas Edition, SPOTY feature :
"Kevin Sinfield - a rugby league-turned-union convert: don't let the Leeds hero become another Sam Burgess"
Oh, nothing about treble winning captain then.....
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| Quote The Devil's Advocate="The Devil's Advocate"Yep but it’s not about rewarding a player who’s had a glittering club career though is it.
It’s purely about the achievements of a sportsman/woman in 2015.
Has Sinfield had a stellar season this year, well not IMO, has he been a great servant to the Leeds club, for sure, but the award isn’t for career achievements.
But let’s be fair, it’s very rare that the winner plays in a team sport & the only time a Union player won was when England took the World Cup!
It’s a pure pipedream that Sinfield will win the thing, even though the Leeds fans are being swept along on a tide of dewy eyed emotion.'"
Possibly is a step far that he'd win it but he currently sits third favourite with the bookies and his odds have continued to lower and he's not far behind Ennis-Hill in 2nd in their eyes.
We also know it's a career nomination, but then again is that a bad thing? Is bringing the curtain down on a near 20 year career with a treble and that has seen him be arguably the best captain in ANY British sport over the last 20-25 years not as worthy as a boxer winning one fight or an F1 driver winning in a massively superior car?
Ryan Giggs, AP McCoy, Phil Taylor are just some names recently whose career added to their success that year helped them to the top 3. Even Steve Redgrave didn't get in the top 3 in the years he won his first 3 gold medals, when he won his 4th he came second and then finally won when he collected his 5th gold medal so his career was clearly taken into account and none of his 3 teammates in the 2000 boat were nominated.
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| I'm a saints fan. The guy was instrumental in sending me home from OT gutted 5 years in a row. But I'm still going to vote for him.
Im sick of hearing on here how the BBC hate rugby league (laughable I know!) so now is the chance to do something about it
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King james
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| I will be voting for him, and I could echo many previous threads, but he has put our penny ante sport in the mix, now it is our chance to show that we as a sport do have a following, a significant following, a passionate and vocal following. One that has the ability to put one of our own to be in the running for BBC SPOTY.
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| You know I was just thinking about some of the people on that list, I.e. Athletes who the BBC seem to be in love with and think everyone else is too, and wondering why isn't Danny Kent on there? For those who don't know him, he is a motorbike racer who this year won Britains first grand prix world championship in I think either 36 or 38 years, I forget when Barry sheenes last one was. He has surely achieved more in 2015 than say Jessica Ennis or Mo Farah?
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| Going off on a bit of a tangent here, but I wonder if it would be possible to use a 'dialler' type system as used in outbound call centres to create mass votes..... If so, would it be worth it for a sponsor or rich RL owner to pay for it? By my reckoning, 15p a vote, plus the cost of running a dialler for 1 night, I reckon £20k-ish would get you 100k votes.... £20k for prime time BBC advertising of RL and then all the associated national press coverage.... Hell, I'd say it would even be worth the RFL looking to fund it (if possible)...
I know it's cheating, but I was always taught 'if you're not cheating, you're not trying....'....
Seriously though, Sinfield would hate winning it that way - but it would be for the greater good of our game.
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| The number of votes to get in the top 3 in the last few years have been....
2014 -
Lewis Hamilton - 209,920
Rory McIlroy - 123,745
Jo Pavey - 99,913
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Andy Murray - 401,470
Leigh Halfpenny - 65,913
AP McCoy - 57,854
2012 -
Bradley Wiggins - 492,064
Jessica Ennis - 372,765
Andy Murray - 230,444
(Higher than usual this year probably down to the massive Olympic year)
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Mark Cavendish - 160,152
Darren Clarke - 42,188
Mo Farah - 29,780
2010 -
AP McCoy - 293,152
Phil Taylor - 72,095
Jessica Ennis - 62,953
Apart from the unusually high 2012 because of the massive success of the Olympics then in most of those years 3rd place is very do-able. The advantage it looks like Sinfield will have is mass voting. More people will vote for the likes of Murray or Ennis-Hill, but they'll probably vote once or twice. Sinfield it seems like will have a significant amount of people voting 10/15 times if not more for him (and at only 15p a go then why not?)
Really depends who and how many tune in to watch the show and then bother to vote. As shown above some years (particularly 2011) seemingly people weren't as fussed about picking up the phone. Often people will say they think "so and so" should win but many don't actually go ahead and bother to vote.
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