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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "I know, because I was at that match, and at the after match reception. On that day France had Maxime Greseque and Jamal Fakir in their primes. Maxime scored one try and created another with a magnificent bomb that no Australian player was willing to try and catch on the full. Frederic Zitter got the favourable bounce and scored. Jamal Fakir ran straight into Darren Lockyer, knocking the Australian champion back several feet and to the ground, enabling Jamal to score a try.

France today has some players of the calibre of Greseque and Fakir. Benjamin Garcia is probably much more talented than Jamal Fakir, and half Luc Albert (still very young -- just 1icon_cool.gif is potentially going to emerge as better than Maxime Greseque. Full back Morgan Escare is an exciting talent, and Eloi Pelissier is probably one of the top dozen hookers in the world. Rookie 18 year old Fouad Yaha is beginning to look like becoming the best winger France has ever produced. It is all looking up for France, if only the national team could find a decent coach!'"


I think your (alleged*) enthusiasm is admirable but your analysis leaves a bit to be desired at times.

I don't think Garcia is better than Fakir. Jamal was a great talent and certainly at this point a better player.

Escare is a fantastic player but needs to work harder on the errors. He reminds me a little of the way Billy Slater was early in his career - enormous potential but too prone to making crucial errors. Eventually this was largely removed from Slater's game and he became a great.

Pelissier is an excellent hooker so you are right there.

Yaha looks a great young talent too but it is a bit early to put him past the likes of Ducasse, Voron, Marsolan, Contrastin, Cantoni, Moya, Pellerin and the like to pick a few at random!

*still not convinced

In any event, this is the biggest game for France in some time. They need a good performance so this becomes a regular event. It is a shame the regular two Test per year schedule between France and GB/England was ever allowed to deteriorate but that is international rugby league admin in a nutshell.

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Possibly a sweeping generalisation, but still a true one, outside the dozen players missing ( why do that I also havent a clue ) they are very poor, it wasnt just ability, no spirit,fight or even disapointment, the England lads werent even trying, it was embarrasing

Despite what you might think you know of my opinions about expansion of the sport I was hugely dissapointed with the French decision to rest a whole team ( if thats what it was ) , it will have damaged the future of the fixture and the credibility of the French

Not good

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: Starbug "Possibly a sweeping generalisation, but still a true one, outside the dozen players missing ( why do that I also havent a clue ) they are very poor, it wasnt just ability, no spirit,fight or even disapointment, the England lads werent even trying, it was embarrasing

Despite what you might think you know of my opinions about expansion of the sport I was hugely dissapointed with the French decision to rest a whole team ( if thats what it was ) , it will have damaged the future of the fixture and the credibility of the French

Not good'"
They don't have much depth outside of the 20 or so full-time players that play regularly at their clubs, but the team yesterday wasn't the strongest they could've fielded even with the players missing. They could've picked a bunch of senior players who have played for the national team in the past like the Bentley brothers and many others from the French league who could've kept the scoreline relatively respectable, but they just seemed to go with youngsters or completely obscure players. As I said, it was more of a developmental team than a legit international team and really should've been billed as France A.

I agree that the match was a joke and it was hugely disappointing turn out from the French, but the issue here is why they ended up fielding this team rather than any problems with the quality of players that they have or the development of the sport. Maybe the earlier poster is correct and they did this because the match was treated as a joke from the start. Either way, it's definitely not good and hopefully being humiliated like that will be a wake-up call for them in terms of the national set-up.

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Quote: ThePrinter "That would be a club side who get to spend nearly all year together compared to a national side who get limited time and matches together to work on things and put them into practise.....another sparkling comparison.'"

You do realise some French players have just finished a long hard season right? Whereas some are just starting their year right?

You keep trying don't you, in spite everything you keep trying.

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I guess the question of whether France can challenge England is similar to asking whether Hudds can challenge in the play offs: there's a case to be made that they could, but the total lack of supporting evidence inevitably leads to a lot of scepticism.

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Quote: headhunter "You are aware that only 6 Catalans players played against England yesterday? They have 18 French players in their first-team squad, and only six played against England. That is the bigger issue, not some fantastical explanation about Catalans not developing enough players. Also I'm really not sure that Huddersfield can boast 18 home-grown players in their first-team squad, but I'm sure you know more about that than me.
Yeah, small-time, unambitious, penny-pinching clubs with no interest in junior development. And Leeds, who have a ready-made feeder system and so no need to run reserves.'"


Catalans can't develop many players to get into their best 17. Absolutely pathetic. Throwing money at antipodeans and bringing through very little quality when they are the only SL team in the country.

Few teams if any can 'boast' 18 home grown players in their squad with so many clubs sharing the same catchment area. So comparing English home grown players with French players in the Dragons is idiotic. The Giants - with 3 other SL teams in west Yorkshire (4 other til very recently) - compare pretty well with the Dragons who have no SL competition. The 4 West Yorks clubs can find 20 or so home grown players to play each week despite competition from big Lancashire clubs & Hull. Catalans with no local SL competition struggle to get 5/6. icon_rolleyes.gif

Your suggestion that clubs running several junior teams + scholarships right the way through to the U19s are not interested in development because they dont want an U23s is plain daft. Many prefer the current pathways + dual registration. Very few want U23s.

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