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Quote: The Avenger "So the Mathers non story is a bigger news than the Challenge a Cup final is it?

If not then why run the Mathers story for 4 full days just ahead of the Wenbley final.

That's not paranoid fella that's a fact and it's not isolated is it?'"


A player getting suspended over an alleged betting scandal isn't a 'non story'.

As to why it has been the lead story for four days, what has the sport done to generate newsworthy headlines? We've had a few press releases about ticket sales (and one could argue that a showpiece event should be sold out well before three days before a final) and we've had a press event for the final at Doncaster Racecourse (Doncaster, of course, being a renowned as a major national media hub) where players trot out the same platitudes and cliches year after year.

Believe it or not, the BBC is not Rugby League's PR agency. The fact that the Mathers story is still the lead article is a failure of all clubs (but particularly this week Hull KR and Leeds) and the RFL to actually provide the media with anything worth talking about.

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Quote: The Changing Man "2 Things buddy
1. Galliant isn't me...or gutters or enigmatic Jim pooley or mollyalone. He's more than likely a Jean crappy creation.
2. I have a stunning hangover but Christ on a bike, your theory about anyone at the BBC fearing rugby league has cheered me up no end.
Barking mate....absolutely barking'"


Jean crappy? Fraid not. I only have one account, loonie81 thinks that if more than one person has a different opinion to him they must all be the same person icon_lol.gif

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Quote: galliant "Jean crappy? Fraid not. I only have one account, loonie81 thinks that if more than one person has a different opinion to him they must all be the same person But the BBC are evil.......maybe they is gutterfax in disguise?

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Quote: Him "This.

Though I believe it is sinister in that it, along with other sectors of the "establishment" including politics and the media, deliberately ignore important events and issues when they don't fit with what they want to portray and further.

The vitriol and lies poured toward Jeremy Corbyn before he'd even entered the leadership contest, the ignoring of non-establishment heartland issues, the furtherance of certain ideas and ideals, the attempted criminalisation and demonisation of large sections of the working class, the plethora of public policy that benefits certain areas and types of people.

The point about the BBC is a valid one. The coverage itself with Chapman is great. The problem is the almost complete lack of build-up or post-game coverage, and I don't mean the immediate time pre or post-match, I mean in the days before and after. With most other major events you have discussions about the game on various BBC outlets, even if it's just a 15 second back & forth between 2 presenters. But that doesn't happen with RL events, despite being as popular and well attended as other events that do get that discussion.
It's that regular drip effect that really boosts a sport or public interest in something and it's something we are continually denied.

Now I don't believe it's some kind of anti-RL conspiracy, I believe it's a deeper issue in all aspects of the "establishment". Because the people running and producing things for the "establishment" be it media, policy etc haven't grown up where RL is important then it's continually ignored as a major sport.

This is partly RL's fault for not spreading the game and because we appeal to a generally relatively poor crowd base but it's still a complete and utter failure of those in the "establishment" to accurately reflect the popularity of a sport like RL and of other issues and events.
Immigration is another good example. Immigration doesn't affect those in the establishment except to provide cheaper cleaning staff. So the actual issues about immigration very rarely get mentioned.

It is sadly a societal issue rather than a direct conspiracy. Though I also refuse to believe it's a coincidence that England RU just happen to be playing in the RU World Cup, in the same city, on the same day just 20 mins after the Grand Final ends.'"


Or maybe it's a "societal issue" (whatever that means) AND a conspiracy. They are not mutually exclusive.

Given that the word "conspiracy" means little more than two or more people acting to further some specific aim I really can't understand why you are so singularly desperate to convince everyone such simply couldn't be the truth.

People, businesses, political parties, social classes etc. conspire every second of the day. In any single workplace of reasonable size there may be a dozen or more conspiracies occurring at the same time - unbeknownst to each other. Admittedly, most are pretty ordinary and mundane affairs. But if you have reached twenty years of age and haven't witnessed evidence of at least one pretty serious conspiracy (whether it be aimed at a member of staff, the customer or someone else) in the workplace you aren't very observant.

British courts routinely try people on charges of conspiracy. Same story in all corners of the globe.

The fact that you seem terrified of even contemplating the idea that human beings might actively work to retard the interests of others (even though there is ample INCONTROVERTIBLE evidence of such all around) suggests that you haven't reached that stage yet when bitter experience kicks the last shred of naivety out of your head.

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Quote: Mugwump "Or maybe it's a "societal issue" (whatever that means) AND a conspiracy. They are not mutually exclusive.

Given that the word "conspiracy" means little more than two or more people acting to further some specific aim I really can't understand why you are so singularly desperate to convince everyone such simply couldn't be the truth.

People, businesses, political parties, social classes etc. conspire every second of the day. In any single workplace of reasonable size there may be a dozen or more conspiracies occurring at the same time - unbeknownst to each other. Admittedly, most are pretty ordinary and mundane affairs. But if you have reached twenty years of age and haven't witnessed evidence of at least one pretty serious conspiracy (whether it be aimed at a member of staff, the customer or someone else) in the workplace you aren't very observant.

British courts routinely try people on charges of conspiracy. Same story in all corners of the globe.

The fact that you seem terrified of even contemplating the idea that human beings might actively work to retard the interests of others (even though there is ample INCONTROVERTIBLE evidence of such all around) suggests that you haven't reached that stage yet when bitter experience kicks the last shred of naivety out of your head.

Wind yer neck in yer massive great tart. Just because I didn't agree with some of the stuff about conspiracies on the Sin Bin don't patronise me.

You clearly haven't read the rest of the thread. If you did you'd understand the context of people's posts. I was disputing the fact it was an overarching conspiracy starting with RU but throughout all aspects of the establishment including the BBC, other media, politics and education. And, crucially, that that overarching conspiracy was directed solely against RL.

Now that you understand the context, re-read it and come back with the kind of response you'd expect from someone of your obvious age.

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