This thread is tough on the kid in the middle. Yes he is trained up enough to know the right and wrong but unfortunately if you're a player and you see a younger bloke in the middle of the field then regardless of his "superior" role you'll take him on and chance your arm and challenge him to overpower you?

The forward pass IMO is on the touchie's head and he should be the one making the call rather than the ref.

We all make mistakes luckily Mr Cobbs wont make much of an impact on the season.

It was passed forwRd left the hands forward, travelled forward, it was without doubt a classic example of a forward pass.

Whether it travelled forward is irrelevant. I've yet to see any footage that shows the ball leaving the hands forward- and none from the vantage point of the official on the side who was in a perfect position to see. If you have then please post a link.

Yep. Definite forward pass.


Whether it travelled forward in relation to the player is relevant. And it did. That's why, in this case, you don't need a shot from the side clearly showing his hands, because you can see how the ball travels in relation to the player.

The fact that you think that pass was fine shows you don't understand the same rule that you are criticising other people for not understanding, and to keep saying that the officials didn't give it as forward so it must be fine is just daft.

No it's not relevant because the ball WILL travel forward in relation to the player. Its mechanics. The rule you claim I don't understand is nothing to do with where the ball ends up- it's to do with the passing motion from the players hands-in terms of relation to the player mcgilvary is behind Grix when the ball leaves his hands and is still behind him when he receives it despite Grix being impeded by a Catalan defender. I've yet to see any evidence that grixs passing motion was forwards. -that's the criteria for a forward pass. The official was stood in the best place to judge that.

if the dragons got every decision given to them every time their crowd appealed they'd have 150 penalties a game, i know they're a passionate lot, but jeez, they whinged, screamed, whistled and booed every time a giants player touched a dragons player, the crowd down in perpignan certainly gets on the referee's back, and early!

maybe M. Guasch is upset because he didn't cave into pressure from the crowd?

saying that, i said at the game i thought it was forward and i haven't seen a replay that proves otherwise, but they certainly got decisions that went their way on saturday, they also made a lot of errors that contributed to their defeat!