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He will flourish in the NRL and become the type of player that we all hope he will. Bateman will only get better but IMO he needs to go to get away from wane otherwise he will cross the line between tough player who never takes a step back to thug who courts trouble, and we all know a former Wigan player who has let his talent go to waste just to have a scrap or play dirty,he's doing it every week in the championship.

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Quote: Kelvin's Ferret "I do think back row is a bit of an issue, although it depends on how some of the youngsters mature physically. We seem to have quite a few young lightweight forwards who look promising but you get the feeling would get run over if they played NRL or test rugby league.

Don't rate Ferres or Westerman and I think Farrell lacks the size to dominate at international level, Wardle would have the same issue if we tried to play him at second row for England. Westwood and O'Loughlin are past their best, so if I was selecting for an international right now I'd take Tomkins, Currie, and Whitehead and probably Stevie Ward although I have my doubts about his physicality.'"


How about Greenwood? The more I see him play the more impressed I get. Rare breed in that while he's a very talented player, he's also got some size about him. He's 6'3 and 105kg, for comparison Liam Farrell is apparently 6 foot and 93kg, Whitehead 6'1 100kg.

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Oliver Holmes from Castleford must be in with a shout, surprised me when I learnt last night he's only 22 years old.

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Quote: SecondRowSaint "Oliver Holmes from Castleford must be in with a shout, surprised me when I learnt last night he's only 22 years old.'"

i was going to post somethig similar, he has been around for years and always impressed me, i reckon he is as good if not better than some names that are floating around. he's big, strong, fast, good hands and decent defence too..
cas fans will tell us that he's been consistently good for a few years now and would deserve a mention, but we all know that when it comes to the England team it's who you play for... most 2nd rowers from Leeds,Wigan, Saints and wire will almost always get the nod ahead of players from castleford either from the coach or on on forums.

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To be honest I forgot about Holmes when writing the OP, but agree that he should be mentioned alongside the names in this thread.

I had no idea he was just 22 either

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Quote: Saint #1 "How about Greenwood? The more I see him play the more impressed I get. Rare breed in that while he's a very talented player, he's also got some size about him. He's 6'3 and 105kg, for comparison Liam Farrell is apparently 6 foot and 93kg, Whitehead 6'1 100kg.'"


Greenwood looks at least 6'4 maybe 6'5.Stands out as being head and shoulders above most everytime i have seen him. And i agree, looks a real prospect

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